Home Recording

Go Back   Home Recording > Equipment Forums > MIDI Mania


        

                                
                                10/30 - [video] Demo Roland TD-20SX
Reply    Audiofanzine Electronic-instrument Electronic-instrument News Electronic-instrument Medias Electronic-instrument Tests Electronic-instrument Articles Electronic-instrument User Reviews Electronic-instrument Classifieds Ads
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-23-2006
famous beagle famous beagle is offline
I'm here, but ... I dunno
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Pilot Mountain, NC
Age: 37
Posts: 1,756
Rep Power: 388636
famous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond repute
Midi setup question

Ok, here's the deal. I'm fairly new to MIDI. I mean, I've used a controller to input music into a score program and to play sounds from my Vintage Keys module, but when it comes to a full-blown MIDI recording setup, I'm pretty new.

So, I have a few questions:


1) Can the sound patches of a soft synth be used with anything other than a software-based sequencer? In other words, can I use them with my Yamaha QY70 sequencer and then in turn with my Yamaha AW16G?

2) Is it possible to write a sequence on my QY70 and then transfer that sequence to Cakewalk?


Basically, I like the freedom of being able to compose away from my setup with my QY70. (Obviously, most of the sounds aren't terribly usable, so I need other sound modules. The only one I currently have is the Vintage Keys module.) But, I'd like to make use of my Cakewalk program if I could incorporate it. Up to this point, I've never used Cakewalk for any sequencing. So is there a way to incorporate my QY70, Cakewalk, maybe some soft synths, and my AW16G into one big happy family?

Thanks for any help.
__________________
famous beagle
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-23-2006
altitude909's Avatar
altitude909 altitude909 is offline
Best Advice Ever: RTFM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Walled Lake, MI
Age: 34
Posts: 2,706
Rep Power: 99510
altitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond repute
1. No. Patches are always specific to the synth (software or otherwise). There are a few exceptions but are all in hardware synths. You can use some hardware patches with their corresponding software versions (FM7 will take any DX patch) but those are few and far between

2. Yes. You just need to slave the hardware sequencer to the software sequencer via midi clock and then just record the midi tracks.

The qy and cakewalk are very similar funtionally so there is overlap but I used to take my old QY10 on the road as a scratch pad and then dump the midi into cubase to add better sounding synths. You can also send midi from the QY to any softsynth or hardsynth so you do have some flexibilty if you want to go computerless
__________________
"Default is the value selected by the composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-23-2006
famous beagle famous beagle is offline
I'm here, but ... I dunno
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Pilot Mountain, NC
Age: 37
Posts: 1,756
Rep Power: 388636
famous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond reputefamous beagle has a reputation beyond repute
Thanks a lot for your response, but I'm still a little confused about something.

It seems to me that your answer to #1 and the paragraph at the bottom are conflicting. I'm sure I'm misunderstanding something and the fault is mine, but I'll try to phrase the question better.


Basically, I like the sequencer in my QY70, but obviously I need better sounds. I have the Vintage Keys, which I like, but I need other natural sounds (like piano, strings, etc.). If I buy some soft synths, like ... I don't even know ... I'm pretty clueless on the soft synth scene .. maybe like this:
http://www.emu.com/products/category...ubcategory=527
are these even soft synths? See how confused I am? lol

If I buy a soft synth, will I be able to use its sounds with the sequences on my QY70 and then slave the QY70 with my AW16G as the master?

Is this making any sense?

thanks again.
__________________
famous beagle
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-23-2006
altitude909's Avatar
altitude909 altitude909 is offline
Best Advice Ever: RTFM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Walled Lake, MI
Age: 34
Posts: 2,706
Rep Power: 99510
altitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond reputealtitude909 has a reputation beyond repute
Sorry,
should have been a little clearer. The sounds on the QY are fixed so you cannot replace them in the box with anything. However, you can use your softsynths and computer like a hardware synth (just send midi to the correct port). This does have its drawbacks though since you will be leaving the digital realm
__________________
"Default is the value selected by the composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Google
 

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
midimonkey wiring frederic Studio Building & Display 7 11-25-2005 21:33
Another Stupid MIDI question HogansHiro Keyboards and Sound Modules 1 05-10-2005 22:54
Need serious midi help whats the best way to do this? puppethead MIDI Mania 0 10-08-2003 22:00
Sonar 2 MIDI Envelope Question zone_ahead Cakewalk / Sonar Forum 0 03-28-2003 01:49
Midi Question Digital Performer Jeroleen Digital Recording & Computers 0 01-05-2002 21:46


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:52.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995-2008 Audiofanzine except where noted. All Rights Reserved.