Audition 2.0 officially announced and available

[ozpeter]

Sign up for the tryout at http://www.adobe.com/special/notifym...outs/main.html

The product details are at http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/main.html

I have it installed if there are any questions that the adverts don't make clear.

[Dave S.]

Still no MIDI sequencing and now online activation.

How is it that Sonar (Cakewalk) can make $$ with no online activation and Adobe can’t? Online activation is a pain. Even more so when you get a new PC a year from now and have to reactivate the SW.

This will be the first upgrade since ‘97 that I’ll pass on.

Dave S.

[ozpeter]

Activation is quicker and easier than posting to a discussion here. So what's the problem? I really don't see it. When you install the product I think it requires about one additional mouse click. When you uninstall, you get a clear two-choice message about transferring activation. Very, very simple and very, very quick. No dongle to lose or to remember to take with your laptop. You can activate on two machines. You don't end up subsidising the warez louts.

So, precisely where does the problem lie?

As for midi - well, it's an audio editor not a midi sequencer. If you need a midi sequencer, buy one. If you need a word processing package, buy one of those. Why it has to do what it's not intended to do also escapes me.

This version is the biggest leap forward the product has ever had - but those who don't need what it offers don't need to buy it. Those who do should (IMHO) consider it very carefully.

[Dave S.]

What if I don't want my recording PC hooked up to the Internet? Then I'm on the phone (wait... wait....)

What happens when I buy a new PC? I'm on the phone again (wait... wait....)

You still haven't addressed the question. If other companies can make the business work for them without product activation, why can't Adobe?

All I'm saying about MIDI is that it's a feature I'd like to see before I invest in another upgrade.

Dave

[timboZ]

$129.00 for the upgrade. My last upgrade was only $60.00.




It now has ASIO support.

[lpdeluxe]

It looks great. I'll definitely upgrade...I'll be able to use the ASIO drivers on my sound card, and my Mackie Control will write to the software. Too cool!

For those of us who were anxious about Cool Edit Pro getting lost in Adobe, I have to say that my fears were unfounded. I have grown to love AA 1.5, and 2.0 is the next logical step, taking advantage of improved driver protocols and control surfaces.

It's ironic that, when I converted to computer recording, I had to learn how to mix with a mouse, and essentially relearn everything I knew...and now, computer recording is coming to resemble tape recording more and more.

[Change of POETS]

Live input monitoring via ASIO support... that's enough for me to upgrade, alone.

[demensia]

I paid $39.00 for the full version of 1.5 on ebay.
$129.00 is a chunk of change.. The compressor is what interests me.
I can't use the compressor in 1.5.. it drives me crazy.

Has anyone used this yet?
Is it worth it?

The whole "built in mastering suite" deal...?

[Change of POETS]

Originally Posted by demensia

I paid $39.00 for the full version of 1.5 on ebay.
$129.00 is a chunk of change.. The compressor is what interests me.
I can't use the compressor in 1.5.. it drives me crazy.

Has anyone used this yet?
Is it worth it?

The whole "built in mastering suite" deal...?

You likely won't be able to upgrade. Most copies on Ebay are student editions/pirated copies, and upgrades aren't available.

[greenascanbe]

Originally Posted by demensia

Has anyone used this yet?
Is it worth it?

Now that is the million dollar (or $129.00) question.

Buler??? Anyone???? Buler????

[ozpeter]

I expect that in a few years' time most major packages will be protected with more than just a serial number. Adobe's activation technology seems to have been bought in from elsewhere - maybe they can afford it and others can't.

If the downsides of activation really outweigh the advantages of the upgrade - well, that's a personal decision I can't argue with.

I work largely with classical music so I've not got very deep into the multiband compressor. It certainly works... its interface is a bit dark for my liking, that's all. By the way - the whole interface brightness can be adjusted to suit your preference. The reviewer at http://www.digitalproducer.com/artic...jsp?id=36828-0 clearly had his brightness way down when he took his screenshots - it's normally much brighter looking than appears there. Generally a good review - worth visiting.

[ace516]

OMG.. why weren't we informed about this upgrade in advance so we could start saving up the cash. heh. i'm practically jumping around like a little girl with this new upgrade. this 2.0 is gonna put audition up on the map. screw pro tools

[ozpeter]

We might not have been informed as such but there were dealers offering it on the net for at least the last month - then Amazon leaked it bigtime - followed by a Dutch outlet who posted the pdf flyers - possibly the most leaked release in CE/AA history!

[demensia]

I bought it..

I had a bit of trouble with the installation, but thats only because after I purchased the download, the serial key wasn't emailed to me.. I was trying to install 2.0 with my 1.5 serial key and it wasn't working. After an hour on the phone with adobe they gave me the 2.0 key and the installation worked.. Then I logged into my adobe account and noticed that the serial key was listed there.. Just a little hastle.

They changed everything. I was used to 1.5.. Not to say I won't get used to 2.0, but its quite a shock. The pan faders are different, the transport buttons are different.. just about everything is different.

I did like the effects rack, and the new multiband compressor (which is by ozone) are good.. I like the compressor way more than the dynamics control.

All in all it is a huge upgrade, I've yet to scratch the surface.

[demensia]

I did notice alot of artifacts on a very simple recording with no processing.
Could be the way I have it set up, or my machine might need a reboot, but something was certainly wrong.

[ozpeter]

What hardware and soundcard? Did you set up the audio hardware options?

[Silverwulf]

Originally Posted by Change of POETS

You likely won't be able to upgrade. Most copies on Ebay are student editions/pirated copies, and upgrades aren't available.

I thought upgrade's were available on most of the education versions that Adobe offers? I have a buddy who had a copy of 1.0 that upgraded just fine to 1.5 I think. And I know people that have had education versions of Sonar and upgraded with no trouble, also.

[Change of POETS]

Originally Posted by Silverwulf

I thought upgrade's were available on most of the education versions that Adobe offers? I have a buddy who had a copy of 1.0 that upgraded just fine to 1.5 I think. And I know people that have had education versions of Sonar and upgraded with no trouble, also.

Typically speaking, you have to be a student to obtain those. Second-hand copies of educational software is considered piracy by most software corporations. I work for one of the top 25 software companies in the world, and we will not give upgrades to people with second hand copies. I'd assume Adobe won't either.

[Silverwulf]

Originally Posted by Change of POETS

Typically speaking, you have to be a student to obtain those. Second-hand copies of educational software is considered piracy by most software corporations. I work for one of the top 25 software companies in the world, and we will not give upgrades to people with second hand copies. I'd assume Adobe won't either.

Yeah, educational versions imply that students buy them. We're talking about educational versions, not second hand versions of editions or pirated copies.

[ozpeter]

Keep an eye on http://blogs.adobe.com/hartshafer/ for Hart Shafer's blog - he's the product manager and is posting frequent info there concerning stuff like the rollout of the tryout version. Good to see Adobe being less secretive than their reputation has had them to be.

[timboZ]

Also check out this podcast with Hart talking abour Ver 2.
http://www.audio2u.com/buildingthepod.htm (Episode 30)

[Change of POETS]

Originally Posted by Silverwulf

Yeah, educational versions imply that students buy them. We're talking about educational versions, not second hand versions of editions or pirated copies.

Actually, we are talking about a second hand version. He said he bought it on Ebay for $39.00... That means it is a second hand product, regardless if it's educational or not.

When people call me and say, "I bought your product on Ebay, I'd like to upgrade it" we say, "Sorry about your luck. Our license is not transferable."

If it was purchased on E-bay, it's second hand. Adobe most likely won't allow you to register a second hand license.

[ozpeter]

There are transfer conditions in the EULA -

4.4 No Transfer. YOU MAY NOT RENT, LEASE, SELL, SUBLICENSE, ASSIGN OR TRANSFER YOUR RIGHTS IN THE SOFTWARE, OR AUTHORIZE ANY PORTION OF THE SOFTWARE TO BE COPIED ONTO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL OR LEGAL ENTITY'S COMPUTER EXCEPT AS MAY BE PERMITTED HEREIN. You may, however, transfer all your rights to use the Software to another individual or legal entity provided that: (a) you also transfer (i) this agreement, (ii) the serial number(s), the Software and all other software or hardware bundled, packaged or pre-installed with the Software, including all copies, upgrades, updates and prior versions, and (iii) all copies of font software converted into other formats to such individual or entity; (b) you retain no upgrades, updates or copies, including backups and copies stored on a computer; and (c) the receiving party accepts the terms and conditions of this agreement and any other terms and conditions under which you purchased a valid license to the Software. NOTWITHSTANDING THE FOREGOING, YOU MAY NOT TRANSFER EDUCATION, PRE-RELEASE, OR NOT FOR RESALE COPIES OF THE SOFTWARE. Prior to a transfer Adobe may require that you and the receiving party confirm in writing your compliance with this agreement, provide Adobe with information about yourselves, and register as end-users of the Software. Allow 4-6 weeks to transfer. Please visit http://www.adobe.com/support or contact Adobe's Customer Support Department for more information.

Sorry for that, but the only way properly to deal with the point is with a large quote!

[billv]

Are any stores, online or otherwise selling the upgrade for less $$ than the Adobe site?

Thanks!

[Silverwulf]

Originally Posted by Change of POETS

Actually, we are talking about a second hand version.

Umm...no, we weren't. You may have spoken to a poster a while back in regards to his $39 E-Bay version, but you quoted me and my question in my post that was speaking solely about educational versions. Let me copy again for you:

"I thought upgrade's were available on most of the education versions that Adobe offers? I have a buddy who had a copy of 1.0 that upgraded just fine to 1.5 I think. And I know people that have had education versions of Sonar and upgraded with no trouble, also."

Never in my post did I mention anything about a second hand version. If you wanted to speak in regards to second hand versions, you were quoting the wrong poster. I was posing my statement in regards to educational versions, and I stated that I've known others that have upgraded educational verisons from Adobe with no problems. The same applies to products from Sonar.