Behringer Mixers

[meachem]

Hi, i need to buy a mixer to record mainly drums or guitar. I have got my eyes set on getting one of these:

Behringer UB1202
http://www.behringer.com/UB1202/index.cfm?lang=ENG

Behringer MXB1002
http://www.behringer.com/MXB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG

Behringer UBB1002
http://www.behringer.co.uk/UBB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG

The UB1202 has 4 mic inputs with 48V phantom power and the others have 28V phantom power. I wont be using many condenser mics.
Do i need the 48v phantom power or could i cope with using the 28V one?

I have found that the Behringer MXB1002 was discontinued but i dont know why? The UBB1002 looks exactly the same and appears to do the same.
Is there any difference?

Is it worth getting an extra mic input but with only 28V phantom power or not?

Do they have different mic preamps or are they all the same quality?

And overall which should i get?

Cheers!!!

MeacheM

[pandamonk]

You should be using condensers with drums, so 48v the Ub1202

[pandamonk]

With four channels you will be wanting to record kick, snare and overheads left and right(if stereo). Kick, a bass dynamic mic like the shure beta 52, snare, dynamic like shure sm57, and overheads, condensers like...hmm...a pair of Behringer C2s might do the trick if on a budget(on $50)and if they don't, they are cheap enough to replace

[magic man]

I borrowed a Eurorack UB1202 from a friend to do some simple demo recording. First thing I noticed it was pretty noisy. Running the LINE OUTs into a recorder I could hear lots of hiss, much more than I expected from a mixer. With that said, it did power two condensers which was cool, it's small and simple to use, and inexpensive. I'd rate it a 7.

[reshp1]

I hate to come across as a behringer hater but their mixers are absolutely horrible. Some of the other stuff is okay, even good, but when it comes to mixers, there is a long list of things that suck.
Noisy pre's
Crosstalk
Scratchy pots/faders
And above all else, they WILL break on you. At least your odds are not good. I'm 3 for 3 right now, one completely toast, one with no phantom and dead channels, and another with a flaky channel.
The Yamaha MG series are much better and don't cost much more. Seriously, stay away from the mixers, this is one area that behri really stinks at.

[Creamyapples1]

I haven't had any problems with my board yet (/crosses fingers) 1222fx pro and it runs like a champ.

[Niimo]

(inhales hit from pipe) in like three seconds all the big wigs of this site are gonna swarm in and cut the shit out of the behringer name (exhale hit from pipe)

[noisedude]

They are sometimes a touch noisey (especially at higher gain settings) and obviously unreliable for some people ... the trend is that it'll break in the first week or never, and nothing much inbetween.

I can second the recommendation for Yamaha MG series stuff ... Behringer have dropped their prices in the UK now to make some ground back up on Yamaha but I'd still say they're worth a few extra quid.

On the other hand, the layout and routing of the Behringers are good (but then I was brought up using Mackies so they should be pretty similar!! ) and there's nothing there that should stop you from making half-decent recordings.

In short ... not the best, but if you refuse to pay more then it shouldn't be the end of the world.