What should i go with SEor Sx....

[Theheat]

My church is purchasing recording software. What should we go with cubase SE or Sx.. which is better for recording Live worship??-J

[sixways]

Se.

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[scrubs]

How many microphones are you using? Are all the mics going to separate tracks, or are you submixing before recording?

Essentially, the software makes very little difference in the scheme of things. Both are solid programs and would serve you well. SX has a few more tricks thrown in for audio editing, but the basic recording functions are very similar. SE is limited to 8 physical inputs/outputs, so that would be the only significant limitation you might encounter while tracking (assuming you are sending each mic to a separate track through a multi-input soundcard). For 8 tracks or less, SE is plenty powerful enough.

Here's a comparison chart: http://www.audiofactory.pl/shared/porownanie.pdf

[Crash ©]

Originally Posted by scrubs

<snip>SE is limited to 8 physical inputs/outputs, so that would be the only significant limitation you might encounter while tracking (assuming you are sending each mic to a separate track through a multi-input soundcard). For 8 tracks or less, SE is plenty powerful enough.

So SE is almost as useless as LE..??

Interesting that the don't mention this on their website.. In fact if a limit of 8 tracks is the case, it looks like they deliberately try to mislead you with this statement on their website, "48 Audio tracks and unlimited MIDI tracks"

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Rob

[Crash ©]

Dug around and found it on a PDF file on their website...
ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Download/Cub...Comparison.pdf

LE limited to 4 tracks, SE limited to 8 tracks, SL limited to 128 tracks and SX to 256 tracks...

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Rob

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by Crash ©

So SE is almost as useless as LE..??

Interesting that the don't mention this on their website.. In fact if a limit of 8 tracks is the case, it looks like they deliberately try to mislead you with this statement on their website, "48 Audio tracks and unlimited MIDI tracks"

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Rob

Now I for one don't find this misleading at all. You have 8 PHYSICAL inputs/outputs. I doubt that more than maybe 10% of the people on this board have more than that in their systems.

Do you have more than 8 INPUT and OUTPUT channels to and from your computer?

Most people never need more than 48 audio tracks either.

[Crash ©]

Originally Posted by fraserhutch

Do you have more than 8 INPUT and OUTPUT channels to and from your computer?

Yep.. Sure do...

[scrubs]

Originally Posted by Crash ©

So SE is almost as useless as LE..??

Interesting that the don't mention this on their website.. In fact if a limit of 8 tracks is the case, it looks like they deliberately try to mislead you with this statement on their website, "48 Audio tracks and unlimited MIDI tracks"
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Rob

No, I meant 8 simultaneous audio inputs. You can record up to 48 audio tracks per project, but only 8 at once.

[Crash ©]

Originally Posted by scrubs

No, I meant 8 simultaneous audio inputs. You can record up to 48 audio tracks per project, but only 8 at once.

So did I...

Trying to get a MultiMix 16 flying right now.. Including a software package like Cubase LE that only lets you record 4 tracks at a time just seems kinda cheap~n~cheazy... And with 16 tacks at your disposal (if you can get the thing working), even 8 tracks with SE seems kinda pointless...

But Fraser pointed out that most folks don't have the ability to input more than 8 channels.. It actually didn't really hit me that there isn't much in the way of hardware that will CHEAPLY let you input that many tracks until recently... But it is there, hence the reason for Cubase SL...

Just seems like Alesis wold have tried to bundle a software package that wouldn't limit their product. Guess when you're trying to get into a tight market with a a new product you try and keep the prices as low as ya can..

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Rob

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by Crash ©

So did I...

Trying to get a MultiMix 16 flying right now.. Including a software package like Cubase LE that only lets you record 4 tracks at a time just seems kinda cheap~n~cheazy... And with 16 tacks at your disposal (if you can get the thing working), even 8 tracks with SE seems kinda pointless...

But Fraser pointed out that most folks don't have the ability to input more than 8 channels.. It actually didn't really hit me that there isn't much in the way of hardware that will CHEAPLY let you input that many tracks until recently... But it is there, hence the reason for Cubase SL...

Just seems like Alesis wold have tried to bundle a software package that wouldn't limit their product. Guess when you're trying to get into a tight market with a a new product you try and keep the prices as low as ya can..

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Rob

Well, looking at the specs of the Multimix indicates 8 balanced mps and 2 1/4" line ines. Not sure if you can use them simultaneously. So that's 10 inputs. The thing is, it is not misleading on STEINBERG's part at all. Maybe a less-than-ideal choice on the part of Alesis, but not on the part of Steinberg.

[Crash ©]

Originally Posted by fraserhutch

Well, looking at the specs of the Multimix indicates 8 balanced mps and 2 1/4" line ines. Not sure if you can use them simultaneously. So that's 10 inputs. The thing is, it is not misleading on STEINBERG's part at all. Maybe a less-than-ideal choice on the part of Alesis, but not on the part of Steinberg.

Yeah, the gripe is all Alesis when it comes to packaging a 16 channel mixer unit with a 4 channel software recordng package... LE is the perfect choice for the Omega (4 channels) or any of the 2 channel USB boxes..

Looking at the MM in front of me, you have your choice of 8 balanced inputs or 8 line level w/ gain control. Your choice one or the other. Each has a 75hz roll off switch as well. There are also 4 stereo line level inputs for a total of 16.. Now on top of these 16 you also get a stereo mixed output of all of the other channels that runs through the Firewire for a grand total of 18 recordable channels all in one whack. Pretty impressive for under $600...

Ok... It'd be a LOT more impressive if I could get it to work up to the hype...

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Rob