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Old 12-12-2005
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Korg Kontroller 49

hi.. been researching some midi controllers (new to midi)... this korg kontroller http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/702417/ looks great and looks like its what I need... but in reading about and viewing a demo from korg's site it I found that it is made to work well with reason software... as in you can control basic functions in reason through the korg kontroller.... and I was wondering if there are any midi controllers that were made to work well with cakewalk's sonar... anyone know?

is anyone familiar with the kontroller? does anyone know if you can still assign knobs/faders if you aren't connecting via the usb? can you just do it if you connect through the midi cables?
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I used one extensivly and I didn't like it at all. the pads are really squishy, the programmer is complex and overall its just not a well laid out controller. Having only 8 faders and dials is kind of a joke. I would check CME or Novation controllers.

There really is no controller made just for one thing since there are so many different controls and no controller can have everything. You only really need to program controls that you acutally use so having presets is only marginally useful
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Thanks for the heads up... checking out those other brands now...
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There is a new novation out now also (SL 25)

Dj Deals is the only place I have seen it

http://www.djdeals.com/novationREMOTESL25.htm

*edit thats preorder
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I can't seem to find an offical website for cme... anyone have a link?

These novations look really great... but it doesn't appear to have a lot of support here in the US... http://www.novationmusic.com/whereto...4&iRegionID=47 this seems to the only dealer in the US? although musicians friend seems to carry them http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...=100001+201507

The remote 49 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/701719/ seems to be the keyboard most comparable with that korg kontroller I mentioned before...

but the x-station seem to be all that plus have it's own effects in it as well... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/702651/

I'm still trying to understand all this stuff... I have a few soft synths (triangle2, crystal, cmfuzz) and I've been using them through my Cakewalk Sonar Home Studio 4... and just making adjustments with my mouse... and writing midi notes out using my mouse... with one of these keyboards I will be able to play my music in real time and also control ANY of my soft syths or VIRTUAL INSTRUMENTS by assigning ANY of the controls to ANY of the assignable buttons on the REMOTE OR X-STATION??? Please let me know if that is right... Thanks for your help in advance

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Dont know if they have an official site but:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--CMEUF8

The xstation has an audio interface built into it so if you are also look for one of those, that may be a good choice. I use the little remote 25 (not much of a keys players) and yes, a controller will allow you to assign knobs to controls
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This product is no longer available at zZounds - the cme...
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does anyone know if you can still assign knobs/faders if you aren't connecting via the usb? can you just do it if you connect through the midi cables?
Actually thats a good question. I've been looking at the Korg Kontrol. CME UF8? and the Novation, etc etc.
Novation seems to have flaky drivers(at least for a MAC), but has good keyboard spongy feel. CME is also good in that regard.
But the big question are most controllers capable of MIDI assignments and controls (CC) with the MIDI connection (less the USB connection)??
I hear about various mfg's that the furnished software controls assingments so forth. Most do not seem to be able to do this via the MIDI connection?

Clarification please?

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heres another link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...2340?src=00630

as far as programming off line, my novation does it an it is fairly straight forward. Using one dial is kinda of a pain, but pretty usable. The software makes it alot easier though. It is pretty much select the control, select the parameters and your done

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But the big question are most controllers capable of MIDI assignments and controls (CC) with the MIDI connection (less the USB connection)??
I hear about various mfg's that the furnished software controls assingments so forth. Most do not seem to be able to do this via the MIDI connection?
The novation does not have a realtime programmer so you are simply doing a midi dump and that can be done via midi or USB (standard SYSEX file)
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I can't seem to find an offical website for cme... anyone have a link?
Here is CME's site:
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Ok... this is what I got for xmas... A Roland Juno.. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/700558/

I really am looking for more of just a midi controller for soft synths that I'm starting to learn to use... but after watching the video on rolands site it seems like the juno has some great sounding patches on it... Any Feed back on these?

It doesn't seem to have that many assignable controllers as say this Novation X-station... I was really looking forward to have the faders... I'm tired of using my mouse for faders... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/702651/
this also has phantom power for the condenser mic I soon hope to own...

I have 30 days to exhange it... bleh.. decisions...

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Trade it in. The Juno D is far from a impressive synth and you will get way more milage fromt the novation
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