ok, broad question

[SacredDespair]

ok,
i know absolutely nothing about recording music, but i have a metal band, and we need some way of recording our stuff and putting onto a cd in seperate tracks. we have both clean and screaming vocals, a lot of guitar, and bass. first off, what are the basic things that i'll need to get started in recording the music? what kind of things will i need to record? and can i just sample in the drums for now? if you need more information, just ask for it and i'll give it to you, sorry, i know this sounds pretty dumb, but i know nothing about this so be specific if you could. thanks a lot, and if you need more, just ask

thanks a lot
ethan

[Sirnothingness]

The two general ways of recording are wither with a standalone unit or on your computer. Standalone units are pretty cool and digital ones are fairly cheap. Computers require an interdace to get the music into it.

You'll need some mics for vocals and also if you mic your amps. Probably also requrie a preamp or three. Effects? Yes, probably need those. Many standalone units nowadays have hard drives and cd-burners.

Give up some more info as to what instruments you got and how you plan on recording (mic amps or direct/Drums proggraming or real). Also, check out the numerous threads here in this section as many contain basic info that you are looking for. Good luck.

[invisiblenemies]

Sorry. I thought was a thread about chicks.

[SacredDespair]

i plan on recording vocals, two guitars, bass, and possibly live drums. where would i find a good stand alone unit? we're playing "metal" which is pretty much loud, heavily-distorted guitar, with clean and screaming vocals, our amps really are not much to speak of yet, and we don't have a drummer at the moment. i don't have much of a price range now, but i'm willing to wait a while and save up if there's something better to look at. if you need anything else, feel free to ask.

thanks again

[sixways]

yamaha AW1600.

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[tourettes5139]

www.tweakheadz.com/guide

Read up.

[tourettes5139]

Originally Posted by invisiblenemies

Sorry. I thought was a thread about chicks.

*Guffaw* *Guffaw* !!!

[SacredDespair]

well, i've looked around for a while at what i'll need, and this seems to cover it, http://www.zzounds.com/item--ZOMMRS802CD

i know it's not top of the line or anything, but will it get the job done? i mean, this is kinda pushing my extremely limited price range right now anyway. so, just tell me what you think, or if there are any better ones in this price range. also, what all will i need to get with it mic-wise?

[sixways]

look for a Yamaha AW16g on ebay.

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[cellardweller]

Got mics?

What kind of guitar amps are you recording?
Or are you going to record direct?

Trying to get a "good" metal sound out of a "crappy" guitar amp can range from impossible to please-kill-me-now in difficulty. Bass guitar aside...

I don't know much about the new Zoom units (or Zoom in general), but when I was shopping around it was the general concensus that their stuff at that time was not user friendly.

[SacredDespair]

well, i'm getting some mics as soon as possible, and i'd heard that the shure sm57 was probably the way to go for that because it seems to be pretty versatile even though i wasn't sure if i needed a mic with a shockmount or not, because i didn't know if that made a difference. as for recording guitar, i was planning to record directly until we get the chance to get some new amps, and then to start recording from 100-120 watt line6 amps. i've also looked around for a while more at which recording unit i'd get, and i think that FostexMR8HD looked pretty good, and held the price range pretty well. also, would it be okay to get this recorder without a cd burner since i have one laying around at home. i just didn't know if you could plug the burner straight in or not.

[ErichS]

Originally Posted by SacredDespair

... would it be okay to get this recorder without a cd burner since i have one laying around at home. i just didn't know if you could plug the burner straight in or not.

You could send the audio outs to a audio CD burner but having the onboard CD burner allows much more flexibility for mixing down.

BTW both of those units only allow two simultaneous inputs, so you will not be able to record the entire band at once (unless you go through a mixer or somthing like that, but then you will still have to mix everythig down to two outputs before recording)

Erich

[cellardweller]

I thought that the MR8HD allowed four inputs at once....


Yep, here it is...MR8HD....scroll down to "specifications"

[Niimo]

i dont' think that only being able to record onto two tracks at once is a big deal. i've got a mr-8 and get the results that i payed for. in my opinion only being able to record two at a time allows for more attention to be placed on it. the less things you have to pay attention to at once, the more attention you can devote to what your doing.

[seryozha]

are we talking Hardcore,Grind, Grunge,Death,Speed,Black?

Ok, I digress...but as stated above, that zoom you linked will ony record "two mics" at once (or if you use a mixer..it will record all the channels but they will be basically mixed together into a Left and Right on the Zoom)

Let us know how you plan on going about recording.

Shure sm57 is pretty much the best "do it all" mic and it would be a great mic to get started with.

[Cloneboy Studio]

Originally Posted by SacredDespair

i was planning to record directly until we get the chance to get some new amps, and then to start recording from 100-120 watt line6 amps.

Ugh, those Line6 amps sound TERRIBLE for recording. Do yourself a favor and spend 250 bucks on a 20 year old Laney AOR head. Those sound awesome for the money.

Also, look into getting a pair of AKG C2000's or similar condenser microphones. You don't want SM57's for your drum overheads... ugh.

[notCardio]

Do you have a mixer or PA already? And what about mics, do you have any now? You can probably take a line out from the Line 6 amps straight into the recorder for now. Not the perfect solution, but it might get you recording sooner.

[SacredDespair]

first, the MR8HD does have four spots, we are going to be pretty much progressive metal, all we have right now is the drums, guitar, and one amp. i'm getting the recorder for christmas. But, beyond that i have nothing, so suggestions on what i'll need are welcome, but i want to start with what i need, and then upgrade. so, just tell me what you think