Producer Point's for those that don't know..

[bknot1]

Alright we goin to show how to figure out producer points for a album...


the SRLP $18.99(Suggested Retail List Price) multiplied by 3%(Producer's Points)= 57 cents

$18.99 x .03 = 0.569(.57)

unless you produced the whole album..you won't see .57 cent

now we need to take the .57 cent and divided by the number of tracks on the CD(15)

$18.99 x .03 = 0.569 / 15 = $0.0379 per song

so you will get ~$0.04 per song you produced on the album if you did more then 1 song..its that easy..

so now you know have to figure out what you would get after the labe recoup their money...

stay on your grind...peace

[crunkthanamug]

Are you sure about that suggested retail price??? I cant remember the last time I saw a cd for $19 (that wasnt a double album) Or is that simply a "constant" used in the equation?

[BEATMAKERS]

Originally Posted by bknot1

so you will get ~$0.04 per song you produced on the album if you did more then 1 song..its that easy..

JUST TO CLARIFY THAT IS PER UNIT MOVED RIGHT ?

So what about if you hold these other titles what are you looking at standard

producer,
executive producer,
the mixing engineer
the mastering engineer

[BEATMAKERS]

and how does publishing work into all this?

[chalin27]

Originally Posted by crunkthanamug

Are you sure about that suggested retail price??? I cant remember the last time I saw a cd for $19 (that wasnt a double album) Or is that simply a "constant" used in the equation?

Go into any store other than Bestbuy, Walmart, and Circuit City...(sure I'm missing a few) And the retail price will be that high. Bestbuy and others sell it cheap but they still make about a 1.00 off every CD they sell.

[bknot1]

Originally Posted by BEATMAKERS

JUST TO CLARIFY THAT IS PER UNIT MOVED RIGHT ?

So what about if you hold these other titles what are you looking at standard

producer,
executive producer,
the mixing engineer
the mastering engineer

yep..per unit sold..

the excutive producer is mostly the CEO of the label
and the mixing and mastering engineet charges by the hout for the mixin and might get money on the back end when sale reach a certain amount..

i will get some examples for you later

[BEATMAKERS]

Originally Posted by BEATMAKERS

and how does publishing work into all this?

?????

[bknot1]

here is a good read for you beat..

PUBLISHING 101 (from The Source Magazine in 2000)
By, Wendy Day from Rap Coalition
http://www.rapcointelpro.com/Publishing%20Info.htm

if it doesnt answer what you wan to know let me know...most deals on the net is 50/50 split..50% for the writer(artist) and 50% for the producers

[bknot1]

^^ up top for the newbies

[gullyjewelz]

so if the producer gets 3% how much does the artist get?


--whew!! this is some funny lookin math. but this is what i have to get my brain wrapped around BEFORE i start releasin a record off of my "newly" formed label. -- so how do you do this same thing for the "artist" who will appear on the song(s)?


great thread . . i smell . . . a rep point!!!!

[bknot1]

Originally Posted by gullyjewelz

so if the producer gets 3% how much does the artist get?


--whew!! this is some funny lookin math. but this is what i have to get my brain wrapped around BEFORE i start releasin a record off of my "newly" formed label. -- so how do you do this same thing for the "artist" who will appear on the song(s)?


great thread . . i smell . . . a rep point!!!!

and artist gets 12-15%(new artists)
then you deduct the 3% producers fee from the artist point which inturns leaves him/her with 9-12%

[bknot1]

bump for the new people..

[TuoKaerf]

In almost all cases, producers get paid from record one (first sold). The artist has to wait until the recording costs are recouped.

[Fyre]

this is exactly why i want to be the producer and artist........ no writters or nothing just me that way i get my whole 15%....... which is still a dayum shame but oh well

[Mo-Kay]

Good looking on this shit...

we don't have anglo-saxon law over here though... (I learned about this kinda stuff in school)


bizz knowledge is important!

peace

Mo-Kay

[bknot1]

bump for the new year..

[Change of POETS]

Originally Posted by bknot1

bump for the new year..

Always a good thread to bump.

We need to get you as the forum Mod, man. Get all this info consolidated into one thread, and get it stickied.

[bknot1]

Originally Posted by Change of POETS

Always a good thread to bump.

We need to get you as the forum Mod, man. Get all this info consolidated into one thread, and get it stickied.

LOL...i dnot think that would happend..been tryin to get a few things made stickies but no one (SPIN) really come in here to much..cause we all get along so well and we run off the spammers..and keep good info for each other in here...

plus i wont beable to be on here like this come july..since i will be transfering for the last time in my military career..yeah retirement is lookin good from 1 job at least..LOL

but we will see depending on where i go for the next 3 years before i come back to MD..

[Change of POETS]

What, they ain't got Internet access elsewhere? lol..

You can't leave, this is like your second home.

[bknot1]

while at at work it is..LOL

[Fyre]

hol up hol up so the producer gets 3% which comes out of the artist 15% then the store its sold at gets about a dollar which is about 5% so thats around 20% for the artist producer and retailer.... leaving 80% unaccounted for and im guessing this goes to who the label?....... thats crazy and whats even more crazy is that if im right the label not only gets 80% off every album sold but they also get the artist 12% untill everything they spent making the album comes back to them off that 12%

tell me if im wrong or not but if im right thats dayum near like robbery when it comes to album sells

[Change of POETS]

Originally Posted by Fyre

hol up hol up so the producer gets 3% which comes out of the artist 15% then the store its sold at gets about a dollar which is about 5% so thats around 20% for the artist producer and retailer.... leaving 80% unaccounted for and im guessing this goes to who the label?....... thats crazy and whats even more crazy is that if im right the label not only gets 80% off every album sold but they also get the artist 12% untill everything they spent making the album comes back to them off that 12%

tell me if im wrong or not but if im right thats dayum near like robbery when it comes to album sells

The price of fame, fam.

The label gets that 80% or so, and they pay everyone else. Distribution, Lawyers, Sample clearance, etc... Then they profit the most.

[Fyre]

I understand that the label has to pay out to lawyers and all but does sample clearance price fall on the label or artist..... at the same time besides promotion and distribution what does the label do for the artist that the artist doesnt pay for..... what i dont understand is why everybody involved get they money from the jump except the artist.. i can understand u gotta pay back advances thats like paying back a loan but dayum even loans thru the feds have a payment plan lol

[Change of POETS]

Originally Posted by Fyre

I understand that the label has to pay out to lawyers and all but does sample clearance price fall on the label or artist..... at the same time besides promotion and distribution what does the label do for the artist that the artist doesnt pay for..... what i dont understand is why everybody involved get they money from the jump except the artist.. i can understand u gotta pay back advances thats like paying back a loan but dayum even loans thru the feds have a payment plan lol

Labels pays for sample clearance, not the artist. The label technically owns the the music, so when they distribute it, they get sued if they didn't clear something.

Unless of course you own your masters, then you get sued for it.

No such thing as payment plans, fam. You recoup, and then you make your percentage.

[bknot1]

Originally Posted by Fyre

I understand that the label has to pay out to lawyers and all but does sample clearance price fall on the label or artist..... at the same time besides promotion and distribution what does the label do for the artist that the artist doesnt pay for..... what i dont understand is why everybody involved get they money from the jump except the artist.. i can understand u gotta pay back advances thats like paying back a loan but dayum even loans thru the feds have a payment plan lol

http://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=185351

and read it some more