Just A Warning

[jingleheimer]

I thought i would just drop by and post a warning about guitar tracks pro 3 or maybe even all of cakewalks products (I assume that other programs are the same way) MAKE SURE YOU SAVE ALL OF YOU PROJECTS AS BUNDLES BEFORE DELETING if you intend to wipe you hard drive. Other wise you loose all of your audio data and come out with blank projects. trust me this sucks. -Jingleheimer-

[Qwerty]

But you'll never do it again will you?

Q.

[Track Rat]

Ahhhh. Newbies.

[mixsit]

Originally Posted by jingleheimer

I thought i would just drop by and post a warning about guitar tracks pro 3 or maybe even all of cakewalks products (I assume that other programs are the same way) MAKE SURE YOU SAVE ALL OF YOU PROJECTS AS BUNDLES BEFORE DELETING if you intend to wipe you hard drive. Other wise you loose all of your audio data and come out with blank projects. trust me this sucks. -Jingleheimer-

You mean if I delete my data I'll loose my projects!?
Yikes.

[dachay2tnr]

Aw, leave the guy alone, boys. If you've been through a data loss, I'm sure it's not much fun. I hope it wasn't months and months of effort, Mr. Jingle.

BTW, not sure if GT Pro 3 supports per project audio file system, but, if so, you don't actually have to save to a bundle file. You just need to make sure to back up your audio along with the project file. You can do this using "per project file system" by simply backing up the entire file folder.

[mixsit]

Originally Posted by dachay2tnr

Aw, leave the guy alone, boys. If you've been through a data loss, I'm sure it's not much fun.

Yes, I have. Been there, fun it's not.
I'll tell you what. It get's worse. I swear my two data drives are in cahoots; 'Psst...Hey Smitty here didn't back up last night'. 'Why don't you come up all grindy sounding in the morning, then when he swaps us out he'll forget to set the master/slave jumper... We can both, like totally screw the registry!' 'Moohoowahhaahh.....'

[fraserhutch]

Seriously, folks, if you do all that work with your system and are not remotely aware of how your DAW saves its data, don't you think you might be due a wake-up call?

I mean, really, I feel sorta bad for the guy, but if he didn't know wher ehis audio was being stored, then IMHO that is an accident waiting to happen.

I have dealt with a number of people whose attidude is "I don't want to know how it works, it just does - I'm a musician and I shouldn't have to know".

Who the hell do you think their fist call is when a HD goes down?

The moral of the story here is, learn your DAW. Learn where it stores your audio and make REGULAR backups.

And my apologies to the OP if it seems I'm ripping you a new one, I'm not really, just giving a heads up.

[dachay2tnr]

I agree this was an accident waiting to happen. But a little sympathy is not completely out of line.

Data loss is a horrible thing (although there are some people who, having heard my music, might not agree. ).

[jingleheimer]

Yes yes i know it was a stupid thing to do and i probable deserve what im getting. My mistake was that i saved my project files and not the the raw data. it was a simple mistake from my lack of common sence i just thought that posting it here would bring others to think about it and not make the same mistake. yours truely, a newbie -Jinglehemer-

[Qwerty]

Keep smiling mate - I'm sure we have all pulled off our own version of that same song...

Q.

[MichaelM]

Saving up for a RAID 5 setup.....

[Qwerty]

What's the value proposition Michael? What's RAID gonna give you, (redundancy aside...)

I sort of think I could sink a bunch of change into a RAID array, but then again I could upgrade the sound card, buy more mics, continue working on the acoustics... etc...

Not diggin' at ya - just interested in your perspective.

Ciao,

Q.

[Toki987]

I thought it was a bundled educational plugin, to make you do better next time you record something.

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by dachay2tnr

I agree this was an accident waiting to happen. But a little sympathy is not completely out of line.

Data loss is a horrible thing (although there are some people who, having heard my music, might not agree. ).

True, And I suppose the tenor of my post might have made it sound like I'm unsympathetic. I'm not. It really sucks to lose your work.

I hope you didn't lose too much work.

[warble]

I'm curious too, Michael. What is your perspective?

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by Qwerty

What's the value proposition Michael? What's RAID gonna give you, (redundancy aside...)

I sort of think I could sink a bunch of change into a RAID array, but then again I could upgrade the sound card, buy more mics, continue working on the acoustics... etc...

Not diggin' at ya - just interested in your perspective.

Ciao,

Q.

In this case, nothing - data redundancy is one thing, but it won't help you wipe your hard disk

I personally do not believe RAID is a good choice for DAWs. DAWs are not mission-critical 5-9s uptime systems. Standard HDs and fairly regular data backups will do you better than raid, IMHO. Also, most RAID systems incur a performance penalty (at least they did the last time I dealt with them).

Want to make you system mnore redundant? Add a second disk and backup your data files to it religiously.

RAID? Inappropriate for DAWs. Of course, this is all my opinion, YMMV.

[LfO]

Originally Posted by fraserhutch

Want to make you system mnore redundant? Add a second disk and backup your data files to it religiously.

Certainly not a bad plan, but it won't save your work from a lightning strike, flood, fire, etc. - I keep a USB/removable drive at work, and bring it home about once a week to back up.

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by LfO

Certainly not a bad plan, but it won't save your work from a lightning strike, flood, fire, etc. - I keep a USB/removable drive at work, and bring it home about once a week to back up.

Agreed, but I was tralking about more REDUNDANT, as in raid.

I'm a big believer and proponent of offline storage, as in tape, CD, or DVD.
A removeable HD would also do, but I still prefer CDs and the like.