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question about editing

Hi. I have a few songs that I want to "cut up" because it is post-mixing and we have one version with a good intro, one with the better verse, etc.

I know how to edit it and crossfade in protools LE (Mbox), but people have told me not to do the editing in protools, because there is sound quality lost. They say it's best to use another program or have a mastering person do it.

Is there a trick to getting around this "loss" of fidelity when bouncing to disk? (i.e. is there a way to do this well without paying for a mastering person to do it?) Someone said that it works better if you bus the tracks to another single track... and then use that track?

Is there another program that is better for doing this, than Protools? Is Toast good at this?

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I know how to edit it and crossfade in protools LE (Mbox), but people have told me not to do the editing in protools, because there is sound quality lost. They say it's best to use another program or have a mastering person do it.
no offense...but whoever told you that, doesn't know what they are talking about.

I'm assuming the song you have already is on your computer in digital form...probably either at 44.1kHz or 48kHz and 16/24bit. So no, no quality will be lost. Pro Tools will open and bounce back to the exact format you are using. Just open it up in LE and edit it the way you need. Then bounce it.
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i 2nd that.
If i were you id use tab to transients when separating regions as this will split the region at a zero crossing point, which will give you a perfect edit point.
Then jump into shuffle mode and easily join the regions back together.
If you do it this way you will not need to use any cross-fades which can alter your edits in a less than optimal way.
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Whoever told you that is wrong.

Id suggest doing all the needed edits to get the song where it needs to be.
Then bounce your songs to 24bit files.
THEN bring them to a mastering guy for the final sonic polish.

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Hi. I have a few songs that I want to "cut up" because it is post-mixing and we have one version with a good intro, one with the better verse, etc.

I know how to edit it and crossfade in protools LE (Mbox), but people have told me not to do the editing in protools, because there is sound quality lost. They say it's best to use another program or have a mastering person do it.

Is there a trick to getting around this "loss" of fidelity when bouncing to disk? (i.e. is there a way to do this well without paying for a mastering person to do it?) Someone said that it works better if you bus the tracks to another single track... and then use that track?

Is there another program that is better for doing this, than Protools? Is Toast good at this?

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PT is digital - no fidelity loss at all.


editing is f#%king amazing in PT - use smart tool and move to the end of a region, you see the cursor change to a square, either with an x in which is the crossfade tool - OR a diagnal line for fade ins/outs

mastering though is not just about fideity - its the laquer and polish on your ferrari's paint job. its worth looking into.
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With the amount of Protools bashing around here and elsewhere, it's no wonder misinformation like that gets perpetuated and mutated into to crap like "protools isn't good for editing."
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I know how to edit it and crossfade in protools LE (Mbox), but people have told me not to do the editing in protools, because there is sound quality lost.
Now you know, if you hear something stupid like this from anyone, know that they don't know anything. Worse, they don't know that they don't know. Steer clear of them. They're bad news. Didn't your mom teach you anything?
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PT will work for you on that. No loss.

if there's a chance you can actually go back to the mix session and edit from there, then even better.

If not, anything like protools, nuendo, cakewalk, sound forge, wavelab....whatever. It'll work fine for simple edits such as that one.
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