Identify this kit!

[noisedude]

Can anyone tell me anything about this kit based on this rather unhelpful photo? It's an offer of a private sale but I have no idea about where it might sit in the used kit market price range!!!

http://www.mytempdir.com/267485

Thanks guys,

Nik

[MadAudio]

Can't tell you much other than he's got the rack toms reversed.

[noisedude]

I noticed that!

[Tim Brown]

Originally Posted by noisedude

Can anyone tell me anything about this kit based on this rather unhelpful photo? It's an offer of a private sale but I have no idea about where it might sit in the used kit market price range!!!

http://www.mytempdir.com/267485

Thanks guys,

Nik

Personally?

I wouldn't go any higher than $450 for it, if it includes cymbals.
Why?

#1. Single braced hardware - which means it's a "lower" drum line -probably an APK or whatever they were - they had two economy lines, one painted and one covered - (that looks like a painted finish, but it may not be)
, in the late 80's early 90's when Premier was owned by Yamaha - and those are type of stands they made - notice that they look exactly like Yamaha's cymbal stands from that era.

#2. Because if you want to get additional toms, you might have a hard time finding them. Now, since you are in the UK - Premier drums might be easier to find over there used - sort of like Ludwig's are here - you can get used Ludwigs all day long for fairly cheap. Just about every decent pawnshop has a used Ludwig tom or two in there for relatively cheap. So, perhaps it's that way in the UK for Premier's since they are made there.


Tim

[noisedude]

There is a rack of some description with it too ... this is an older photo but apparently there's a big rack and some more hardware and cymbals ... although I think I'd bin those Sab Pros and start again!!

[RAMI]

Tim nailed it. It's a 5 piece low level Premier kit. Like most companies, Premier makes great top of the line drums. They also make entry level kits. The hardware is a hint. Also, and I might be wrong because It's been a while, but I used to work in the drum shop of a very big music store a few years ago, Premier better lines of drums don't have seperate lugs on the toms. It's one long lug. This one has seperate lugs. I can't tell what kind of cymbals those are, but if they're not higher end Zildjian, Sabian or Paiste, then the kit isn't worth more than $400.

[mrface2112]

Originally Posted by MadAudio

Can't tell you much other than he's got the rack toms reversed.

FWIW, and completely off topic, John Molo (Bruce Hornsby, Phil and Friends) is a righty who plays with his rack toms "reversed". gives him some interesting tonal options.

i've been known to flip my 12 and 13 rack toms (i have 10, 12, 13, 14 and a 16 floor), just b/c it's sometimes cool to do.


cheers,
wade

[F_cksia]

It´s a Premier!

[EDAN]

Originally Posted by RAMI

Tim nailed it. It's a 5 piece low level Premier kit. Like most companies, Premier makes great top of the line drums. They also make entry level kits. The hardware is a hint. Also, and I might be wrong because It's been a while, but I used to work in the drum shop of a very big music store a few years ago, Premier better lines of drums don't have seperate lugs on the toms. It's one long lug. This one has seperate lugs. I can't tell what kind of cymbals those are, but if they're not higher end Zildjian, Sabian or Paiste, then the kit isn't worth more than $400.

Premier's higher end kits had both single and one piece lug designs on varying models. Also some of their lower lines had one piece lugs like the Cabrio.

[RAMI]

Thanx for clearing that up...I wasn't sure.

[PhilGood]

Originally Posted by mrface2112

FWIW, and completely off topic, John Molo (Bruce Hornsby, Phil and Friends) is a righty who plays with his rack toms "reversed". gives him some interesting tonal options.

i've been known to flip my 12 and 13 rack toms (i have 10, 12, 13, 14 and a 16 floor), just b/c it's sometimes cool to do.


cheers,
wade

So does Kenny Aronoff

[RVLVNGDRS]

Originally Posted by mrface2112

i've been known to flip my 12 and 13 rack toms (i have 10, 12, 13, 14 and a 16 floor), just b/c it's sometimes cool to do.


cheers,
wade

think Dom Famularo...

http://www.domfamularo.com/DomNew%20Pic01.jpg

[bcains]

It's a Premier Cabria, Link to another pic. I recall on a drum forum a guy picking one up for $200 (entire kit & Zildjian ZBT cymbals).
I'm pretty sure the model is early to mid 1990's, before the XPX and APK line was introduced, dont quote me on that thou

[noisedude]

Ok .... so what can you tell me about Premier Cabrias?

[bcains]

Originally Posted by noisedude

Ok .... so what can you tell me about Premier Cabrias?

To be honnest stuff all. I just recall someone telling me about how
they switched to seperated lugs not too many years ago, and added RIMS-mounting etc and that they were one of the first ones...sorry not much help

[Brad_C]

That older model primier cabrias are not bad sounding. My old drum teacher had a premier cabria snare that sounded simple amazing. If the price is right I would go for this kit. The premeir cabria sell for 2 grand canadian i believe and I have played those kits before.