Does one need a certification in music in order to get his/her work published?

[dan01]

hi!

I am curious as to why an aspiring musician's works are rejected by some music publishers and recording studios alike when they found out that he does not possess a certification in music (the former is an I.T. specialist who composes his music using PC).

does it really matter?

[treymonfauntre]

what the heck is a certificate?!

[mick8569]

ha a lot of 'musicians' cant read music and know pretty much zero musical theory. are u meaning songwritting for others to use? if so i wouldnt have a clue, but im guessin its pretty much just how it sounds that matters

[dan01]

grade certification as in theoretical grades obtained in music school.

i guess those music publishers or record companies are making things a bit difficult for the former by doing that.

http://www.abrsm.org/?page=parents/a...tem.html&id=15

[LfO]

No one cares about formal certifications in this arena. Some do in classical music, but that's about it. It sound like they just don't like the music, and are trying to soften the blow.

[mandocaster]

Originally Posted by dan01

hi!

I am curious as to why an aspiring musician's works are rejected by some music publishers and recording studios alike when they found out that he does not possess a certification in music (the former is an I.T. specialist who composes his music using PC).

does it really matter?

Who rejected what? I don't understand the situation. As far as I know, no recording studio, publisher, label, agent, manager, etc. on the planet is concerned about "music certification"

Maybe if you are trying to get a job as a music teacher?

[EddieRay]

Originally Posted by mandocaster

Who rejected what? I don't understand the situation. As far as I know, no recording studio, publisher, label, agent, manager, etc. on the planet is concerned about "music certification"

Maybe if you are trying to get a job as a music teacher?

Maybe they're just making it up so they can reject him?

On the other hand, most musicians are certifiable.

[FunkDaddy]

Originally Posted by EddieRay

Maybe they're just making it up so they can reject him?

Lol, yeah, they might just be making an attempt to be tactful.

[Walter Abbott]

Most legitimate music publishers are overloaded with product they have investment in and simply are not bottomless pits of money.

Their respective abilities to come up with lame excuses is only exceeded by the ignorance of most hopeful songwriters, authors and composers who believe any part of those lame excuses.

The problem is MONEY (or lack of it) more often than not. A publisher's share of promotion and copyright exploitation can be extensive, and there isn't enough money in all creation to finance every good song. I just wish they would say so and not beat around the bush about it.

One cure to get legitimate publisher's attention is to prove your music's commercial acceptability. Beyond that, it's a crap shoot unless you catch an Artist's Producer whose in-house composition well has ran dry. Slim to none there.

Best of Luck.

Walter Abbott

[Monsoon]

Originally Posted by EddieRay

Maybe they're just making it up so they can reject him?

On the other hand, most musicians are certifiable.

Heh heh. Excellent on both counts.

[Walter Abbott]

"Most", Eddie? I thought the whole industry was!

There a new lilt to songwriters getting exposure for their music, no membership 'fees', et cetera, and the demos get heard by people who use music, not reputed 'experts' with a far bigger string of flops than flyers.

Got a hearsay on it, songwriters radio service, will check it out and report.

The Liar Catcher.

[piperon]

Thanks Dan01,

Dan01 was referring to me about the certification here in Singapore.
I do not know why my music works are being rejected again and again.
And some without getting any reply from the music label too.
I do believe my works are of superior qualities, you can listen for yourself at :-

www.mixposure.com/piperon

I only want to say those bastard producers or A&R guys in Singapore are suckers!!!! I am sorry coz it really make me pissed off already after so many years (15 yrs) to attempt to get my music published.

If you are from any music label, I am sorry to say the above.

Pardon for my anger then - I am really disappointed with the music industry.

Piperon Out ...

[LfO]

The hard part about making music is its creation - once it exists, it is easily distributed.

Therefore, everyone has access to the "best" (defined by a combination of popular preference and industry mandate) music available.

Furthermore, a LOT of people want to make music professionaly - its fun, and it gets you a lot of positive attention. Though it may feel difficult and high-pressure, it really isn't - compare it to being a tech at a nuclear plant or a surgeon - THOSE are high-pressure jobs. If you've got to do SOMEthing for a living, music sounds like a really nice option.

So, there are a whole lot of aspiring musicians, but most listeners listen to just a few musicians.

What this means, is that you've got to be extremely good and/or extremely lucky to make any money publishing your music. It's like playing the lottery - you've got low odds of a great payout. If you happen to win, congratulations, but you have no realistic excuse to be irritated when you don't.



If you really want to make money as a musician, consider playing live. It may not pay well, but your odds at getting some actual, steady income from music are FAR greater.



This is far more of a personal opinion, but if I were you, I'd remove all mention of not having a degree/certification in music - it comes across as putting yourself down, and there's no reason for it (at least in American culture - if perceptions are different in your part of the world, please correct me).