Spoken Word beats (bass, fingers, sax, piano)?

[jbroad572]

I'm looking for those real smooth rhythms that you used to hear in clubs. Where you have the upright bass player walking the bass, may have a few people snapping to the beat, piano playing soft chords, and/or a sax or 2. You know what I'm talking about? The poet usually stand there with some dark sunglasses as well. Does anyone have any of these or know where I can find or create them?

[Pinachi]

The best way to create them is exactly opposite than anyone doing here,because everything here is done with sampling,or the fake synths.In order to achieve the sound you are looking for you neeed the real instruments.Now some you can get by with,like piano's(with effects for reality feel),now true bass on the other hand is very hard to achieve with sampling or synth's.

If you try,you have nothing to loose,i would advise to use soft reverb on snares,pianos and even some percusion,but dont overdoit.Soundfonts have real audio clips,like bass bridges,and even chucks,but most are only few real notes and the rest is sampled.

I know i'm not much help,but try to post this in a different section,maybe theres more people who is doing the same thing.I would love to make a song like that too.

[brighterstatic]

pm me, I am an upright bassist who has been poking around in electronica/glitch style music lately, I would happily throw you some walking lines....

[jbroad572]

PM on the way.. thanks.
Since this thread has been posted I have bought a fretless bass and am lovng it. It sounds a lot like an upright, but considering I don't know much about bass I cannot walk up and down and with it being fretless it will take a little bit longer. I however have done a few things by ear that sound pretty good in accomplishing what I was going for, but some clips of your playing would be even better.
Here's a sample, at the end I just start trying different things that turn out for the worse.
http://bway5.net/basstrck2.mp3
Not the best by far, but definitely not the worst. I edited some of the words, because it was jibberish just wanted to see how my voice would fit in with it all.

[Pinachi]

Good idea,i like the quality of the song,and its amasing how people can achieve their goals without giving an arm and a leg these days.

Practice makes perfect!

Great job bro,You getting there,i allmost bought me a bass guitar 2 months ago,but had to talk myself out of it because i'm saving up for my preamp.Its so easy to get off track when saving moneys .

Anyway,care to share what you are using,hardware,software,brand bass?

Thanks

[jbroad572]

Originally Posted by Pinachi

Good idea,i like the quality of the song,and its amasing how people can achieve their goals without giving an arm and a leg these days.

Practice makes perfect!

Great job bro,You getting there,i allmost bought me a bass guitar 2 months ago,but had to talk myself out of it because i'm saving up for my preamp.Its so easy to get off track when saving moneys .

Anyway,care to share what you are using,hardware,software,brand bass?

Thanks

Sure...




It is a Brice HXB405 Fretless 5 stringer, I also picked up a Crate BT15 beginner bass amp. To record I just hooked it up my cheap behringer mixer, which is connected to my comp through an onbaord sound card (I know, it will get replaced next), the mic is a MXL V67G, the click you hear is from an old cheap Yamaha PSR225, and Adobe Audition is my software.

I should not have bought this bass, but GAS got the best of me. Now, my sax (primary instrument) I have been wanting will be delayed ...

[Pinachi]

Pretty nice,it sounds good too,nice and thick.

i understand about the primary thing,thats another reason i didnt get the bass,because i didnt want to give up on the keyboard,so i feel your pain.I wish our minds were like computers,just load the instrument data,and play automaticaly without learning

[jbroad572]

Originally Posted by Pinachi

Pretty nice,it sounds good too,nice and thick.

i understand about the primary thing,thats another reason i didnt get the bass,because i didnt want to give up on the keyboard,so i feel your pain.I wish our minds were like computers,just load the instrument data,and play automaticaly without learning

No kidding, like the matrix? That'd be great stuff, but then everyone would be able to do what we do as musicians. I've always wanted to learn the bass and someone told me playing an instrument that emphasizes the rhythm would help out my sax skills even more, so I kind of used that excuse to make the purchase "ok".. lol. But I know it will help me out in the long run, especially when I start writing music for my jazz band. So, it will all work out.

[brighterstatic]

learning more than one instrument is never bad. If you have a "primary" instrument, learning another will help you see how your instrument fits in with things and what other options are avaliable.
Almost every jazz trained musician, from trombone to drums, learns basic keyboard skills. Every bit of musical knowledge brings you closer to the abiility to envision and act out the vision of your music..buy 75 instruments and fool around with them all, they will make you a better sax player. as long as you dont ignore the sax in the process.

At 30 years old I have decided to learn drum programming and the use of analog keyboards, both have made me a better double bassist and a much more musically open person.
A professor once explained that the more I learned, about anything, the greater my total knowledge way, the greater my total knowledge way. the more potential input I have emotionally and logically into my compositions.

It took me about 8 years, but I do believe him now.

[jbroad572]

Originally Posted by brighterstatic

learning more than one instrument is never bad. If you have a "primary" instrument, learning another will help you see how your instrument fits in with things and what other options are avaliable.
Almost every jazz trained musician, from trombone to drums, learns basic keyboard skills. Every bit of musical knowledge brings you closer to the abiility to envision and act out the vision of your music..buy 75 instruments and fool around with them all, they will make you a better sax player. as long as you dont ignore the sax in the process.

At 30 years old I have decided to learn drum programming and the use of analog keyboards, both have made me a better double bassist and a much more musically open person.
A professor once explained that the more I learned, about anything, the greater my total knowledge way, the greater my total knowledge way. the more potential input I have emotionally and logically into my compositions.

It took me about 8 years, but I do believe him now.

i couldn't agree more. I've been playing on the keyboard, guitar, and now bass. I tried drums, but my coordination needs work. I'll get back to it eventually. I'll tell you what is also difficult for me is playing the piano with both hands. It's slowly getting better though.