How do you get guitar feedback when an amp is out of the question?

[dogbiscuit]

How can I incorporate some guitar feedback into my recording without an amp? I'm using the PODXT for this song and I'd like to add some feedback. Can you download feedback samples? I have done a search but can't seem to find anything. An amp is out of the question unfortunately but a download would do nicely. Any ideas folks?

[Kasey]

you dont. maybe you could simulate some sort of feedback sounding using a synth or an e-bow on a guitar, but an actual feedback without an amp is simply impossible.
i think.

[thajeremy]

im sure you could get someone here to record you some feedback...
You will have to give a little detail of what you are looking for...how long do you want it to go on and so forth...I have a guitarist comming in this afternoon to lay down a few tracks for a couple of songs that the rest of the band knocked out this past weekend...he is in a pretty heavy local band, and if we have time, it shouldnt be a problem.

[metalhead28]

Have you tried to do it anyway? I mean, turn it up really loud and just hold the thing in front of your speakers. With enough gain it will probably still feedback.

[dogbiscuit]

Originally Posted by thajeremy

im sure you could get someone here to record you some feedback...
You will have to give a little detail of what you are looking for...how long do you want it to go on and so forth...I have a guitarist comming in this afternoon to lay down a few tracks for a couple of songs that the rest of the band knocked out this past weekend...he is in a pretty heavy local band, and if we have time, it shouldnt be a problem.

That's a very kind offer and would be very much appreciated if u could. I'm doing a cover of 'should I stay or should I go' by the Clash. I am trying to adapt it by stopping after the second verse (letting the chord ring out) and adding some feedback as if the song is ending. Then it's gonna kick in with the end chorus (like as if it was being played live). You get the picture? I'm not sure how long I need. Perhaps about 12 seconds, but it really depends on how the feedback fits in with the song. Ideally more than one sample of feedback would be useful or even like about a minute of feedback to pick out the most suitable part and fade it in where necessary. If it doesn't work then I will just revert to the original song structure and leave it out but it would be good to try it out.
The chord which rings out is a standard 'D' chord. The guitar sound is jangley (plexi lead, 4 times 12" green 25's, mic on axis), similar to the original. You may not want to concern yourself with those PODXT settings, Im just trying to give u as much info as I can think of to describe the tune.
It's quite punky so I'm after quite a punk-rock feedback with sorta fluctuating tone/texture and maybe those clicky/Hendrixy sounds! You know, like there's all sorts going on!

[thajeremy]

ill relay this info on to the guitarist comming in shortly....ill just have him give me tons of feedback for a couple of mins...changing up tones and stuff and maybe you can use something from it...may be tomorrow before i can give you something though...

[larry_emder]

If you use monitors with the pod, turn it up loud, and put the guitar near the monitors it should feedback fine (i'm pretty sure, i've done it many a time before)

[travelin travis]

Originally Posted by larry_emder

If you use monitors with the pod, turn it up loud, and put the guitar near the monitors it should feedback fine (i'm pretty sure, i've done it many a time before)

but that feedback won't get recorded unless you throw a mic up in front of the monitors. i'm not sure how that would sound.

[dogbiscuit]

Originally Posted by thajeremy

ill relay this info on to the guitarist comming in shortly....ill just have him give me tons of feedback for a couple of mins...changing up tones and stuff and maybe you can use something from it...may be tomorrow before i can give you something though...

That would be cool. Look forward to hearing it

[David Katauskas]

Are you looking at having a long running session of feedback, or just short bursts of feedback while playing?

If you want the latter, then a technique you can perform is using the actual harmonics on your guitar. Find an obscure harmonic combination such as low E 4th fret and A 4th fret combined. This is used a lot by Randy Rhodes and can be heard on Crazy Train.

[thajeremy]

I really regret to tell ya that we didnt have a chance to get to record the feedback. we had a lot of tracks to get through in a short time and didnt really even get all those done. I hope this isnt holding you up from anything. He probabaly wont be back in here till early next week....sorry..

[dogbiscuit]

Originally Posted by thajeremy

I really regret to tell ya that we didnt have a chance to get to record the feedback. we had a lot of tracks to get through in a short time and didnt really even get all those done. I hope this isnt holding you up from anything. He probabaly wont be back in here till early next week....sorry..

Thats cool don't worry about it. I will see what I can come up with in the meantime.
Anyone else know where I might get a feedback sample from?

[Markaholic]

i think i have some old loops cd's that may have a few on it..ill check and repost my results

[Stefan Elmblad]

Many years ago, I recorded feedback using my studio monitors, worked as good as anything.

[Zaphod B]

Originally Posted by Stefan Elmblad

Many years ago, I recorded feedback using my studio monitors, worked as good as anything.

But you mic'd the monitors, right?

[Tim Walker]

It's all in the fingers. I can make an acoustic feedback!


tim

[dogbiscuit]

Originally Posted by Markaholic

i think i have some old loops cd's that may have a few on it..ill check and repost my results

That would be much appreciated Markaholic.

[walters]

Take the output"Send" of the Aux of the Pod guitar track
Playback on a Monitor speaker and use a Mic on a different channel
stick it in front of the monitor speaker and add alot of gain and record
the Feedback on a the Mic channel input

This is "Post audio Feedback": making the recorded audio feedback in post
production

[gullfo]

you can just set a hi-gain amp on your pod (or even any one of a number of vst plugins) and get a pretty decent feedback going. i tactic i use is to plugin the guitar directly (using a mixer/di/etc...) so its clean and try out a number of different effects via my DAW monitors until i get the level of gain and/or distortion right. feedback is actually pretty easy at that point plus i have a line 6 so i can re-amp, again using a hi-gain amp mode and get feedback via my monitors pretty easily. so between your pod and some plugins you should be able to get what you want... all at pretty low volumes levels... if you have a wah pedal, you can also use it to add some extra punch to the feedback point you want...

the most important thing is the feedback will be consistent with your playing rather than sounding sampled or fake... check out your hi-gain settings on your pod, you should be able to get the feedback sound you want pretty easily... the thing to watch for is hum from getting close to your monitors or from single coil pickups in hi-gain mode...

using this method you don't need to mic it, it's already happening through you DAW... (or whatever recording device you're using...)

[ruined]

Not the most realistic way but if you have Fruity Loops, the generator FL Slayer has a patch called Sololead Glide, that actually makes a decent feedback.

[GOODLAND]

I just crank up my monitors loud enough to get some feedback going, but not too loud so I don't damage my monitors, then hit record. This sounds exactly like what an amp would sound like with feedback. Try it.

[ericlingus]

yeah i've gotten feedback by using my vamp2 direct and putting my guitar's pickups in front of one of my monitors.

[vintagetobes]

Originally Posted by Tim Walker

It's all in the fingers. I can make an acoustic feedback!


tim

No you can't, your just ringing a harmonic. Acoustics dont feedback...theres no loop going on. Other than resonation.

[rushofblood]

Originally Posted by Tim Walker

It's all in the fingers. I can make an acoustic feedback!


tim

If you mean plugged in, that's not a difficult feat, because the body is extremely prone to resonance, sometimes unwanted.

[chestwick91]

pray to dimebag?