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08-02-2005
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suggestions for getting a new snare
I'm, in the market for a new snare. I wan't something loud as hell with ring and overtones galore and nice body tuned to a medium-high pitch. It seems like a trend to try to drown a drums tone with die cast hoops and muffling rings and whatnot. But I want my snare to bite you in the ass with a loud yet full bodied crack and keep singing with medium-long decay and some sweet ass ringing.
Any suggestions? Currently I'm looking into a Pearl Ultracast in 14x6.5. I tend to prefer metal snares. 
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08-02-2005
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if you "wan't" something like that, Ludwig 400/402. easy!
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08-02-2005
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Build it yourself - you'll learn a lot, get what you want, and be proud of it.
I've got a 14x5 10-ply maple snare with brass die-cast hoops that I built, all top of the line hardware just cause I'm an idiot - It sounds awesome, though I think I'm going to buy a 6" or 6.5" shell and see what that's like... I use an Evans Geneva head on top and an Ambassador reso on the bottom. We're in the process of recording a new cd - so if you wait a few days I can probably get some clips up for you. PM me and let me know if you'd want them. Check out some of the techniques for proper shell preparation - the inside should be polished very lightly - the more polished the inside is the more ring your drum will produce. The sharper your bearing edges on the rims, the more resonance you'll get - the duller the edges the warmer the sound, but too dull sounds bad imo. Anyway just opening some ideas to you. Goodluck.
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08-02-2005
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find a vintage ludwig black beauty snare
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tell me... is it more of the same and where can i find it?
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08-02-2005
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Get yourself one of these:
Black Dawg Hawg I just received mine a few days ago, and it sounds awesome!! Great snare for a great price, basically a copy of the Black Beauty.
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08-02-2005
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I suggest you go to a music store and test them out. FOr me, I prefer bronze snare drums.
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"However Simon thought of the beast, there rose before his inward sight the picture of a human at once heroic and sick."- Lord of the Flies
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08-02-2005
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Multi-purpose fire-cracker of a snare
The snare I have is a Pearl brass shell floating snare in the 14" x 6.5" size. I bought this one not having anything particular in mind. I just spent several hours one day in a local Guitar Center playing every snare they had on the wall. With no dampening of any kind, this baby is loud and it has a grin inducing crack to it. Some times I put a small piece of felt between the snare chains and resonant head to muffle the snares. Left toward the out side, the felt only midly muffles the chain. The closer to center I move the felt the drier the snare sound is. Add zero rings to the top and softens the crack and ends up more like a smoother jazz snare. After owning it for 3 years, I'm still totally satisfied.
Eric
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08-02-2005
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This is what I use. Its the Tama Lar's Ulrich snare. Loud as hell.
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08-03-2005
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nobody has addressed my need for ring! i want hefty spoonfuls of ringy overtones. many metal snares with some die cast rims can give me and awesome loud crack and i like that but i want more sound from my snare than one short loud snap. if i'm going to spend $400 on it (which is about my limit) i'm going to want my baby to sing!
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08-03-2005
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Hardcore,
There are other competant snares available but a Ludwig Black Beauty is something you should hear. Also if you're looking for a darker courser ring tone, the you might consider an 8 lug snare. I have a c. 1964 Grestch brass shell 8 lug that can be quite the 'honker' if I tune it down a bit. Cheers Iain Cheers Iain
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08-03-2005
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tell me... is it more of the same and where can i find it?
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Also, don't strike the drum in the center of the head. Hit off to the side.
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08-03-2005
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I haven't heard some kind of monster but are you sure he's even using that snare in the recording? i think on that album they tried not to pull any fancy studio tricks to make it sound raw or whatever so maybe the tone of the snare in the recording is actually the tone live. but, he also has a signature bell brass snare and i'm not even sure if he actually uses either of his signature snares, seems to me like most artists with signature snares don't even use them.
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08-03-2005
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You want a good versatile snare drum with good ring and tone? Then get a Ludwig Acrilite!!! They're a 5x14 Aluminum shell, 8 lug and thy're about $150 used. I have one and it's an awesome drum. You can get the best sounds out of it and it is very versatile. I use a clear ambassador snare on the bottom and a coated Emperor (with the bottom black dot BE-0114-10) on top. If you want a lower pitched snare, then use the same drum with a clear Remo Pinstripe on top. Mine is from the early '70's and looks brand new. It also has the muffler inside it and it still works and makes no noise (some of them will rattle). Great drum, plenty of ring and LOUD! I can't believe nobody mentioned it!
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08-03-2005
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Pearl Sensitone kicks ass. one of my friends has a 5"x14" and man that thing kills! And the great part is you can get them for about $160 or so. Tim Last edited by Tim Brown; 08-04-2005 at 02:15..
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08-03-2005
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I'll second the Acrolite. It is a great loud snare, and you should be able to pick one up at a pawn shop for about $50 to $75 used. Tim
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Tim Last edited by Tim Brown; 08-04-2005 at 02:15..
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08-04-2005
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I've been giving serious thought to the chad smith signature snare and the sensitone. from reading it seems like they've got the sound i'm looking for in a price that suits me well. from the descriptions i've read, they sound great but i'd really love to actually hear them. anyone got any sound clips or know where to find some? i'll probably be going to a local drum shop sometime soon when i can find a few hours to spare. although i always feel bad when the super nice local drum shop guy spends an hour with me trying out stuff and then i go buy it for cheaper online.
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08-04-2005
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08-04-2005
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