The ES Rack?!?

[Jae Little]

Is it worth getting the ES rack? I plan to get the Fantom XR, Micron, and Triton Rack. Plus, I'll have programs and plugins like: Fruity Loops 5 XXL Edition, Colossus, Plex by Steinberg, Edirol HQ Orchestral VSTi DXi v1.01 Arctic, DSP Drumkit, Timbo Drumkit, FM7, Virtual Sound Canvas and Live 4.0 Real-Time Music Production Suite. So, is it really worth getting the ES rack? Or should I get it because it's in a league of its own?

I'm really confused on this because I played with the ES rack and I didn't like the sounds I heard but I didn't get a chance to go through all of it. Or I might have been doing something wrong and wasn't listening to the ES rack but the Motif rack.

[bigwillz24]

If YOUR ears didn't like the sounds of the ES rack.

Why would you want us to to approve or dissapprove your thoughts?

[Jae Little]

I want to see what others think about it so I can may be give it another chance. I didn't go with all the sounds, some people may have it or played with it before so they may know something I don't. I really want to go listen to it again.

[bigwillz24]

Well personally I love the box...

Thing is I got sounds from my triton, mophatt, & computer that I haven't even touched. Not to mention I haven't made my own sounds with them and have been using the presets. So I'm not using the full potential of my gear.

I'm pretty sure by your list you have not used the full potential of your gear either.

I said all that to say you probably don't need one but if you want one get it if not don't bother.

Don't become a victom of G.A.S.

[Jae Little]

I was thinking that I wasn't going to need it because I have more than enough sounds and I know I can tweak a lot of them. It's like I have no purpose for the ES rack. Just like I decided to stop using the controller and I want to get a Juno-D. I tested it out and it's pretty good. So I might have to get it and I should be done with equipment, well after I get an MPC.

G.A.S?!? Explain that...Haha

[bigwillz24]

Gear Acquisition Syndrome and you are showing symptoms of it.

[Jae Little]

I figured it was something like that. Nah, I been wanting the Juno-D just haven't had a chance to go to Guitar Center and get it. I need a set of keys anyway, I'm use the controller for my laptop.

[Jae Little]

Forget the Juno-D, I'm sticking by my midi controller. But I'm still buying another one for the laptop, so I can have it with me on campus. My studio equipment is staying at home which I can come to it every week and lace tracks. But I'll have the laptop on campus with all the plugins and the controller and will be set.

[ssscientist]

Do not buy that much gear at once. Even though you think it will be one big musical party after you have all the newest stuff there is a learning curve to everything you listed.

Get one or two things in each category and buy more as you get to know the strengths and weakness of your existing setup.

And you can make your parents very happy by spending your college loan money on tuition instead of gear.

[bigwillz24]

I liked your other response better....

[ssscientist]

Which one?

[ssscientist]

Oh, you mean the one I deleted. Yeah, me too. But that was a little harsh, and I'm trying to be nice this week...

[Markaholic]

Originally Posted by Jae Little

Is it worth getting the ES rack? I plan to get the Fantom XR, Micron, and Triton Rack. Plus, I'll have programs and plugins like: Fruity Loops 5 XXL Edition, Colossus, Plex by Steinberg, Edirol HQ Orchestral VSTi DXi v1.01 Arctic, DSP Drumkit, Timbo Drumkit, FM7, Virtual Sound Canvas and Live 4.0 Real-Time Music Production Suite. So, is it really worth getting the ES rack? Or should I get it because it's in a league of its own?

I'm really confused on this because I played with the ES rack and I didn't like the sounds I heard but I didn't get a chance to go through all of it. Or I might have been doing something wrong and wasn't listening to the ES rack but the Motif rack.

Edirol HQ Orchestral VSTi DXi v1.01 Arctic
i never heard of artic b4 as i own this same thing so it intrigued me if it was a new add on...upon doin a search...this is apparently a guy who cracks software...great move fuckstick for tellin us...dumbass!
Me thinks all the software hes using is pirated as well
Heres a msn search of it:
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?s...i+v1.01+Arctic

[ssscientist]

Originally Posted by Markaholic

...great move fuckstick for tellin us...dumbass!

Ah so!

Perhaps I should have gone with my first instinct after all...

[Jae Little]

Let me clear this up for you dukes.

Markaholic: First off, I don't crack software. I don't even know how to crack software. A friend of mine had it and said it was good and at the time I needed more sounds so I told him to send it to me. That's how I got it, the things that I bought were Live, Fruity Loops, and Colossus. A local producer burned the other things for me on disc for half price. Which he is legit, he has the disc to everything so that's how I got the rest.

Ask question because you go about saying something that you know nothing about it. DUMBASS!!

ssscientist: I already know that I must get a piece of equipment at a time. You make it seem like I don't know this already. I'm not getting everything at once because it's pointless, I won't know exactly what each piece of equipment is capable of doing. And so you know, college is already paid for. The money I'm buying equipment with, is that that I worked for. See, you're talking and not knowing anything. What I look like spend tuition money on equipment, that's dumb as hell.

Look, I know what I'm doing. I just asked a simple question about a piece of equipment and y'all took it to a different level for no apparent reason. Y'all you had to do was answer my question and move along. I know not to get a lot of equipment at once because you have to sit down and learn the equipment before you decide to get something else. I don't know how to crack software, don't you think if I did I would've listed more things than I did. I would have everything but I don't know how to do that, nor do I want to know how to crack software. I can careless about software because I'm using all hardware.

So, please...think before you start running off at the mouth and things should go a little smoother for you fellas.

[ssscientist]

Originally Posted by Jae Little

So, please...think before you start running off at the mouth and things should go a little smoother for you fellas.

Whew! If there was ever an opportunity to say 'same back at you' this is it.

Please drop this nonsense. You are just digging yourself in deeper with every post.

People who burn software for others and then charge 'half price' are equally crooked as you, the dumb sucker who buys the unstable, unsupported warez.

As far as not answering your question goes, it's very poor policy to first admit you're a thief and then ask for help.

[Markaholic]

Originally Posted by Jae Little

Markaholic: First off, I don't crack software. I don't even know how to crack software.

i wasnt saying you cracked it..i was saying ARCTIC seems to be a guy who cracks software. What you do with your computer is no concern of mine...but dont be asking questions about the shit or posting to everyone that you use cracked software!

[Jae Little]

ssscientist: I don't know what's up with you dude. It's called another producer helping someone out, that's why he sold them to me. It's not being crooked, so what you're saying is someone buying equipment from ebay is crooked. I didn't steal the programs so therefore I'm not crooked. I'll charge someone if I burn them some software.

It's like you're mad because someone has or doing something you're not doing. What you're mad because you can't get the software? I think you should read the definition of "Thief"...Thief meaning a person who steals. Basically taking things they don't rightfully own, taking something without purchasing it. Which I purchased the software, therefore I'm not a thief. So what you can do and I quote "Shut The Fuck Up"...

Once again Markaholic, I didn't even know it was cracked. I don't even know anything about cracked software.

[ssscientist]

You are digging yourself in deeper and deeper with every post. Please find something else to do with your time.

[jeff0633]

Dud, you can't be that silly. If your friend made a COPY for you, that's illegal. Let's try to make youunderstand. If Adobe spends Hundreds of thousands developing the audio program "Audition". They set it out at the stores to sell. ONE guy , (Your friend) buys it, and starts "helping another engineer out" all over the place by making them copies of Audition, that would be ILLEGAL. Can't you just see the folks at Adobe? They would be saying, "Damn, we have only sold one copie of this software, yet there are a hundred poeple using it. Then they find out that the one customer that bought it has sold a hundred copies at half price, made himself a few thousand bucks profit, and Adobe got nothing for their research and development. Starting to get the picture? What you did was Illegal, and what your friend did was illegal. You broke the copyright law. That is not the same thing as selling an ITEM, (Not a copy) on Ebay. If you sell a used radio one Ebay, that is not COPYING the item and making a profit on thier research. Now, If I took that radio and took it apart, and COPIED every patented part, and even copied the company's logo and everything, then I went out and sold it as a new radio from that company, that would be ILLEGAL. Understand? Your friend made half his money back that he spent on the programs. What if he "helps" a hundred engineers out, wouldn't he make a sweet profit? You cannot be dumb enough not to know that would be wrong and ILLEGAL. Your friend didn't have the right to copy someones software and then sell it. You were supposed to buy it from the company.

Now, having explained this to you, I will add that most everyone on these forums are probably using pirated software. Only a few are dumb enough to admit it. The ones who act high and mighty about it are probably the ones with tons of it on their computers. Everyojne knows that no one from these boards can come and see what's on your computer, so if being honest doesn't cost you anything, you might as well go all the way. So, when I see other posters coming here and saying how horrible others are for using cracked software, I get the feeling they are the ones using it most. A guilty man proclaims that he is innocent louder than the truly innocent. Hell, everyone on this site could have 90 percent cracked software on their computers, and there is no way to find out who has what, so why not proclaim you have none and look down on those who admit they do as horrible law-breakers?

On a final not, I don't have any cracked software on my PC, and I think anyone who does is a low-life crook. Man, that makes me feel better to let everyone know how honest I am. It's a shame that everyone can't look at my computer so that I could proove how honest I am (hahaha)

Jeff

Originally Posted by Jae Little

ssscientist: I don't know what's up with you dude. It's called another producer helping someone out, that's why he sold them to me. It's not being crooked, so what you're saying is someone buying equipment from ebay is crooked. I didn't steal the programs so therefore I'm not crooked. I'll charge someone if I burn them some software.

It's like you're mad because someone has or doing something you're not doing. What you're mad because you can't get the software? I think you should read the definition of "Thief"...Thief meaning a person who steals. Basically taking things they don't rightfully own, taking something without purchasing it. Which I purchased the software, therefore I'm not a thief. So what you can do and I quote "Shut The Fuck Up"...

Once again Markaholic, I didn't even know it was cracked. I don't even know anything about cracked software.

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by jeff0633

Now, having explained this to you, I will add that most everyone on these forums are probably using pirated software. Only a few are dumb enough to admit it. The ones who act high and mighty about it are probably the ones with tons of it on their computers. Everyojne knows that no one from these boards can come and see what's on your computer, so if being honest doesn't cost you anything, you might as well go all the way. So, when I see other posters coming here and saying how horrible others are for using cracked software, I get the feeling they are the ones using it most. A guilty man proclaims that he is innocent louder than the truly innocent. Hell, everyone on this site could have 90 percent cracked software on their computers, and there is no way to find out who has what, so why not proclaim you have none and look down on those who admit they do as horrible law-breakers?

Jeff

And that's a very ignorant paragraph. Ther are plenty of use who do not use pirated softare, don't paint the world wit5h your colour.

Some of us actually make a living from writing software and take this seriously. If you want to debate this, there are threads about doing exactly that. I don't want to hijack thius thread but I could not let that statement go unchallenged.

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by Jae Little

ssscientist: I don't know what's up with you dude. It's called another producer helping someone out, that's why he sold them to me.

No, that's software piracy. There are NO other terms for it

[warble]

Originally Posted by jeff0633

On a final not, I don't have any cracked software on my PC, and I think anyone who does is a low-life crook. Man, that makes me feel better to let everyone know how honest I am. It's a shame that everyone can't look at my computer so that I could proove how honest I am (hahaha)

Jeff

Originally Posted by jeff0633

...A guilty man proclaims that he is innocent louder than the truly innocent.

No, I'm not accusing, this just made me laugh. Maybe you were trying to be funny in which case, my laugher is not misplaced.

[Toki987]

Originally Posted by Jae Little

Let me clear this up for you dukes.

A local producer burned the other things for me on disc for half price. Which he is legit, he has the disc to everything so that's how I got the rest......

So, please...think before you start running off at the mouth and things should go a little smoother for you fellas.

I bet, he'd really be glad you didn't give his name, address, and phone number as well.

[Jae Little]

Originally Posted by fraserhutch

No, that's software piracy. There are NO other terms for it

I'm the only person he did this for. He seen that I was trying to come up so he helped in a way. I could've bought it from Guitar Center but I didn't. A few little softwares shouldn't hate a multi-billion dollar company. I didn't plan to get the software, I was going to get them from Guitar Center but he made an offer and I wasn't going to say no. What I look like? Because I know 90% of you dudes wouldn't done the same thing I did if you have the opportunity. I've worked for every piece of hardware and software that I own. I've invested a lot of money to my music. I buy everything straight from the store and not ebay. This was the first time I did this so why make a big deal out of it.

Y'all make it seem like my purchase from the guy shut the company down. There's people out buying software everyday so they aren't losing money. Yeah, it might have been illegal but you can't say you haven't once broken a law. We all make mistakes, it's normal. And when you look at the the software that I got from him aren't really that much, I bought the high price software right out of Guitar Center and at online stores. I know some of you probably sent one of your boys or someone software through AIM.

Basically, this whole thing just got out of hand and it shouldn't have went to where it is now.