AUX sends Cubase VST

[ecktronic]

How do you set up aux sends in Cubase VST 5?
I cant seem to send a track to another track. And i cant seem to be able add an auxiliary track, it just sets up an oridnary track.
Any help on this would be super.

[kraley]

...and use the sends effects on the individual tracks to do this.


This is covered well in the documentation.

[ecktronic]

I can make groups and add effects to them and send channels to them so they have reverb on them. But when i send the track to the group i only hear the group and not the original track anymore. I am wanting to hear both the original track and the track once it has been sent to the group with the effect on it. Its so i can free up some processor power by using only one reverb for many different tracks.

[ecktronic]

Only way i can think to do this is by cloning every track i want reverb on and then have my original track and then the cloned track to send to the group. Is there an easier way of doing this on Cubase VST?

[gravehill]

Originally Posted by ecktronic

Only way i can think to do this is by cloning every track i want reverb on and then have my original track and then the cloned track to send to the group. Is there an easier way of doing this on Cubase VST?

Hmm, I'm not 100% sure what it is you want to achieve but it sounds to me you need to take a look at the effect sends. You can also route stuff to groups via sends.

[scrubs]

Yes, you should have VST effect sends that you can send multiple tracks to.

[ecktronic]

I want to send tracks to one certain track (aux) that has a reverb effect on it. I want to be able to hear the original track and also the original track that has been sent to the aux track. It is so I can use the aux send on the original track to control how much is sent to the reverb (aux) track so I can use only one reverb for many different tracks to save on processor power.

I tried using the send but it didnt change anything. I could still only hear the track sent to the aux, so I could only hear the reverb effected track and not the original dry track.
I might be using the send wrong, but I tried the pre button and send to group one with the volume right up. I did this along with sending the original dry track to a group that had the reverb effect on it.
Anyone know what i mean?

[scrubs]

I'm using SE and don't know about VST 5, so maybe they are different. If you want to have one signal completely dry and one signal processed, the only way I know to do it is to clone the track and apply effects to one of them.

The grouped tracks are for adding the same eq/effects/automation to multiple tracks. It can be useful, but I don't use it much.

The VST effect sends (look in your devices menu for 'VST Send Effects' or something similar) allow you to send part or all of the signal through the effects bus (very similar to an effects loop on a mixer). Therefore you retain as much of the dry signal as you want and can add as much effect as you want. Generally speaking, send effects are 'post fader,' not 'pre.' Also, you don't usually want to have the send amount 'right up.' Only send as much as you need. On reverbs, for example, I typically send ~5-20% of the signal through the effect. The remainder of the signal is unprocessed.

Here's a screenshot of how a send effect appears in SE:

[Atterion]

To set up an FX track, you do it just like adding a group or audio track, which should then automatically, bring up a pop-up to select your fx-plugin of choice (If not manually enter plugin as an insert effect on the newly created FX Channel)). Then you can assign sends on the original tracks and control how much of each track goes through the FX Channel via each tracks send level.

Sounds like you have everything grouped together with reverb on the group track. Your reverb plugin is probably set to 100% wet/0% Dry (Hence the reason you only hear the reverb effected sound). Either set up an FX Channel (Prefered), or change the wet/dry ratio within your reverb plugin.

[gravehill]

There are no separate FX channels on the good old Cubase VST. But, fortunately, there is the manual which explains all about the routing. All praise the manuals.

[PHILL2796]

Set up a group chanel and put verb in its insert. Go to the traks you need verb on activate a send and send it to thr group chanel. Now the original goes to the master bus and the send goes to the group(verb) and then to the master.

[Atterion]

Originally Posted by PHILL2796

Set up a group chanel and put verb in its insert. Go to the traks you need verb on activate a send and send it to thr group chanel. Now the original goes to the master bus and the send goes to the group(verb) and then to the master.

Yup!!!! I guess I didn't see that he was using VST 5 (I thought we were talking about SX).
The Group channel acts just like the FX Channel, but allows for more options (i.e. you can activate sends on a group channel, to use on other group channels, and can route the channel output to any other group or master output...FX channels feature insert only, and run directly to the VST outputs only).

[ecktronic]

Woahh, cheers all for the replies. I finally worked out what i was doind wrong. I had created a group from the pull down menu at top of screen. By this you need to select certain parts of your song to add to the groups. I sent the original tracks output to the reverb aux, so obviously there was no way i could hear the original track! Stupid me.
But as alot of yous said I used the send on each channel that i wanted reverb on and sent it to the aux reverb and then to the master. Yeahh.
Ta all.

[hueseph]

You don't need to set up a group in order to send multiple sources to one send. Once you set up a send as a reverb, that send appears as a reverb on all the channels. You're just making work for yourself. There are good reasons to set up a group for effects but saving cpu power is not one of them.

[ecktronic]

Cheers hueseph. What would you set up a group for in terms of effects?

[hueseph]

The only reason I would set up a group is if I wanted to fade effects on a group of channels simultaneously. For example if I were using a lofi plugin or a reverb for atmosphere which I would like to cut or fade during verses but bring back during a bridge or outro, I would use a group send. For a simple reverb pr delay on one channel I would just use a send. There are multiple configurations that you could do. Take the time to experiment. This is a good way to develop your own bag of tricks. IE: you could send an effected group channel via send to another group channel to layer effects.

[ecktronic]

Nice one sounds interseting layering effects. Must give that a go some time.