Metallica question

[famous beagle]

I just saw "Metallica: Some Kind of Monster" the other day. It was very funny. And forgive me if this is common Metallica fan knowledge (I'm certainly not a fan), but is Kirk Hammet gay? He comes off prissy as hell in that movie.

[donkeystyle]

people swear to me that that movie wasn't staged, but i just can't believe that that band is really the way the movie makes them look. to me it seems like if they were, they wouldn't have let it be known. i only saw a small portion of the movie, but holy crap it was ridiculous.

i dunno if he's gay.

[Purge]

I think everybody in Metallica became gay after "Justice".

[Clit Torres]

I've always thought Kirk was a fag.
His nails are always way too well manicured.

Have always loved his chops though.

[etnoziroh]

Good call, I had the same impression (haven't even thought of metallica since and justice for all) I recently saw the movie too.

He seems gay and very childlike for a man of his age and wealth, but he's the only one that doesn't come off as a spoiled megastar. The small segment with Lars' father gives an inkling of why Lars himself is the way he is. If any of the movie is "real", then james is just as dissapointing as Lars.

The 24 hour psychologist guy takes the cake as the saddest thing I've ever seen.

The studio scenes of the band rehersing and jamming are cool though.

[gvarko]

He's eccentric, not gay...

[gvarko]

Originally Posted by Manhole Music

Boy George, Esq.

Mr. George,

Are you saying Kurt has had too many visitors in his "Manhole"?

[scottboyher]

Originally Posted by Manhole Music

Dear Famous Beagle:

Despite your malevolent observations, Mrs., I mean Mr. Hammett is not homosexual or prissy. Many of long-tenured guitar players have developed a slight limp in the wrist after several grueling years of finger picking and tapping. And the dainty yet frail gait does not stem from years of rectal abuse. Instead, it arises from decades of donning, wearing and removing tight, leather rock star pants. Should you detect a slight lisp in Mr. Hammett's soprano-esque speech, it is only a direct result of being tongue-shocked from ungrounded microphones.

We here at Manhole Music appreciate your endeavor to show an undiscovered side of Mr. Hammett, but we feel that he has already shown that side to many of adoring music lovers, especially those of a male persuasion.

Thank you,

Boy George, Esq.

First Deepthroat comes out of the closet and now this...

[Manhole Music]

Which one is being referred to here? This is in reference to Curt Hammett, lead guitarist for the band "Reach Around" out of Topeka, Kansas.

Any similarities between persons, living or dead, gay or straight, is purely coincidental.

[Dethska]

I think Kirk Hammett has just spent too much time in San Francisco and picked up the "accent." He's been married a few times to females, so he's either straight or bisexual.

[Zed10R]

Originally Posted by famous beagle

I just saw "Metallica: Some Kind of Monster" the other day. It was very funny. And forgive me if this is common Metallica fan knowledge (I'm certainly not a fan), but is Kirk Hammet gay? He comes off prissy as hell in that movie.

Who cares? Kirk can suck all the co*k he wants. He's still the lead guitar player of the biggest, most influencial metal band of all time. Too bad they they are more country rock now than metal. But he might be. I would not be suprised.

I think they are EXACTLY the way that movie portrays them. All these years of living that life, pissing each other off, and being coddled by eveyone who knows them? Shit. I'm suprised they are as well adjusted asd they are.

I totally believe that if they just TRIED...just a LITTLE... they could still make some incerdibly sick and brutal metal. I hope they find that fire again. I've been holding out hope for them ever since Justice.... They were RIGHT THERE.....on the brink of something mind blowing and beautiful.....and then something happened. The black album came out and then...well.....we all know the rest.

[famous beagle]

Originally Posted by Zed10R

Who cares? Kirk can suck all the co*k he wants. He's still the lead guitar player of the biggest, most influencial metal band of all time. Too bad they they are more country rock now than metal. But he might be. I would not be suprised.

I think they are EXACTLY the way that movie portrays them. All these years of living that life, pissing each other off, and being coddled by eveyone who knows them? Shit. I'm suprised they are as well adjusted asd they are.

I totally believe that if they just TRIED...just a LITTLE... they could still make some incerdibly sick and brutal metal. I hope they find that fire again. I've been holding out hope for them ever since Justice.... They were RIGHT THERE.....on the brink of something mind blowing and beautiful.....and then something happened. The black album came out and then...well.....we all know the rest.

IMO, Metallica is the worst thing that ever happened to guitar tone. I know they didn't invent it, but they certainly did more to popularize the "scooped mids" sound than anyone, which is, without a doubt, the most sorry excuse for a guitar tone ever.

[-=¤willhaven¤=-]

Fuck that. The tone on And Justice For All was awesome for the time. I use far more mids in my sound than they did then... but their sound was fucking great.

[famous beagle]

Originally Posted by -=¤willhaven¤=-

Fuck that. The tone on And Justice For All was awesome for the time. I use far more mids in my sound than they did then... but their sound was fucking great.

To each his own I guess. It's weak and boring to me.

[faderbug]

it's very simple, metallica used to be awesome but now they are sissyrockers with the right attitude coach.
i don't know and don't care if the're gay or not.
but they do have become a bunch of wankers.

[Manhole Music]

Regardless of sexual preference, isn't it time we got behind our fellow musicians and stayed there until this chaotic climax was over? It's time guitarists reach around and grab this growing epidemic with both hands and shake this issue up until it has nothing left to give. Then can we finally wash our hands of it.

I, too, think Kurt Hammond is an accomplished guitarist, but that doesn't mean that no others are not entitled to their own opinion, don't it?

[Scottgman]

Originally Posted by Manhole Music

Regardless of sexual preference, isn't it time we got behind our fellow musicians and stayed there until this chaotic climax was over? It's time guitarists reach around and grab this growing epidemic with both hands and shake this issue up until it has nothing left to give. Then can we finally wash our hands of it.

I, too, think Kurt Hammond is an accomplished guitarist, but that doesn't mean that no others are not entitled to their own opinion, don't it?

LOL!

"climax"
"reach around"
"growing epidemic"

Funny stuff!!

Well played!!!

[Zed10R]

Originally Posted by famous beagle

To each his own I guess. It's weak and boring to me.

Eh...yeah. To each his own. To me, the Iron Maiden guitar sound sucks ass. So does Judas Priest. While those two bands ARE technically "metal", they are certainly closer to "glam rock" I think. IM and JP sound weak and boring to me.....but no one will will an argument like that. Everyone with a mullet will come out of hiding to support them....

And if scooped mids is "the most sorry excuse for guitar tone ever" what is a great tone? I'll admit scooping mids like that is dated and not the best thing to do, but really - what do you like to hear??

[famous beagle]

Originally Posted by Zed10R

Eh...yeah. To each his own. To me, the Iron Maiden guitar sound sucks ass. So does Judas Priest. While those two bands ARE technically "metal", they are certainly closer to "glam rock" I think. IM and JP sound weak and boring to me.....but no one will will an argument like that. Everyone with a mullet will come out of hiding to support them....

And if scooped mids is "the most sorry excuse for guitar tone ever" what is a great tone? I'll admit scooping mids like that is dated and not the best thing to do, but really - what do you like to hear??

I personally like to hear more bite and "life" in guitar tone. The thing about that scooped mids sound is that it's so easily imitated, and even on not such great equipment. Besides the fact that it pretty much sounds the same at every volume. After Metallica hit it big, you could look into every guitar player's rig and see that scooped mids setting and know exactly the sound that was going to come out of their amp. To me, that sound is similar to the takamie plugged in sound that was so popular when it first came out. It's so easy to get, but it really sounds like it too.

Some of my favorite rhythm tones would have to be Rich Robinson (Black Crowes), and ... well ... I was getting read to name some others that I like, but it's just apples and oranges. I'm not a metal guy at all, and I'm guessing you are. So ... I guess we should agree to disagree.

[Manhole Music]

I thought we were finally going to fill this dark hole of homosexuality with the creamy white truth! And now, famous bagel (I personally like cinnamon raisin and apple wheat) erects the connotation of apples and oranges. Please, can't we just stop talking about fruits?!?

Take pride and go march for all the little Kent Hammocks all over the world!

[gibsonguy09]

Originally Posted by etnoziroh

Good call, I had the same impression (haven't even thought of metallica since and justice for all) I recently saw the movie too.

He seems gay and very childlike for a man of his age and wealth, but he's the only one that doesn't come off as a spoiled megastar. The small segment with Lars' father gives an inkling of why Lars himself is the way he is. If any of the movie is "real", then james is just as dissapointing as Lars.

The 24 hour psychologist guy takes the cake as the saddest thing I've ever seen.

The studio scenes of the band rehersing and jamming are cool though.

Yah for his looks and his music you would think it would be some hard core looking guy.

[travelin travis]

Originally Posted by famous beagle

I personally like to hear more bite and "life" in guitar tone. The thing about that scooped mids sound is that it's so easily imitated, and even on not such great equipment. Besides the fact that it pretty much sounds the same at every volume. After Metallica hit it big, you could look into every guitar player's rig and see that scooped mids setting and know exactly the sound that was going to come out of their amp. To me, that sound is similar to the takamie plugged in sound that was so popular when it first came out. It's so easy to get, but it really sounds like it too.

Some of my favorite rhythm tones would have to be Rich Robinson (Black Crowes), and ... well ... I was getting read to name some others that I like, but it's just apples and oranges. I'm not a metal guy at all, and I'm guessing you are. So ... I guess we should agree to disagree.

Yes Metallica are now a bunch of sissies but once upon a time they were the best thing in the world to me (at age 15).

That scooped sound is pretty generic these days but back then it was all the shit. And, it's not as easy to get that And Justice For All tone as you might think. Try it. The guitars parts on their old albums were made up of alot of layers of guitar tracks. No matter how close you think you're getting to dialing in that sound, something is always misssing.

Maybe I've just gotten old, or wiser, but these days, I really do love that "tube" tone put out by the Black Crowes guitarist. BTW, I just saw the Black Crowes a couple of weeks ago and they were still rockin. Seems not everyone has taken a ride to fairyland.

[Zed10R]

Originally Posted by famous beagle

I personally like to hear more bite and "life" in guitar tone. The thing about that scooped mids sound is that it's so easily imitated, and even on not such great equipment. Besides the fact that it pretty much sounds the same at every volume. After Metallica hit it big, you could look into every guitar player's rig and see that scooped mids setting and know exactly the sound that was going to come out of their amp. To me, that sound is similar to the takamie plugged in sound that was so popular when it first came out. It's so easy to get, but it really sounds like it too.

Some of my favorite rhythm tones would have to be Rich Robinson (Black Crowes), and ... well ... I was getting read to name some others that I like, but it's just apples and oranges. I'm not a metal guy at all, and I'm guessing you are. So ... I guess we should agree to disagree.

Fair enough....but just try to get the guitar sound Meshuggah has. I dare you.

[speaker]

wat ever you say about the guy he is still an amazing guitarist. some of the riffs he pulls out are ace. i know metallica aint everyones cup of tea but give credit were credit is due

[nuemes]

The first Metalica album I heard was 'Master of Puppets', I think when I was 13 years old. That was an amazing album for its time. But then I started listening to Megadeth and realized just how much Metalica ripped off from Dave Mustaine as well as other bands. For that, they suck, and they will always have to live with themselves and that guilt (which is partly why I think they are so emotionally screwed up today as the video shows).

Now they are filthy rich consumerists with nothing to say about the world they live in. Did you see how they write lyrics? They sit around and rhyme words that sound badass such as 'death/breath', 'land mine/crime', etc, etc add nauseum...

Hetfield in particular is a mess. He has a great pair of lungs but he can't write good heavy metal without stealing it and has nothing lyrically to say. In that sense he is the exact opposite of Dave Mustaine (who comes off as smarmy and manipulative in the video anyways).

And Kirk Hammet? That guy has been playing the same guitar solo in nearly every single song he's ever recorded. Step on the wah pedal and wank away while you loose your thinking audience... Aw, who cares. If I owned a horse ranch in Marin I wouldn't care about my music either! OR WOULD I???