Internal mixdown vf160ex

[paz8473]

I get everything set in the internal mixdown mode, EQ everything the way I like it, pan everything so it sounds great, listen to the final product and rewind, I'm ready to record the final mixdown, with int mixdown light flashing I hit record and play, the song records to a new int mixdown program, I play it back to check it out and everything is flat and centered, why is it not saving it the way I am mixing it?

[spanishgrass@cs]

If your recorder is like mine, Vf160, you must turn "scene sequence" off when mixing. If its on while mixing you lose your settings when you stop and start over. I was having the same problem in the beginning and it took me several weeks to discover this. Of course there are no doubt other possibilities.

[paz8473]

Thanks for your suggestion, I gave it a try and still get a final mix flat and everything centered, I have tried storing my mix in the scene memory and bringing it up when I do the int mixdown then shutting off scene sequence, I have also tried it with scene sequence on, the whole time it is saving the mix it is showing my mix name on the display and everything sounds great, when it is finished I play it back and it is as if I never mixed it at all, I've tried everything I can think of and I am about to give up trying to do it this way, I may just run a cable to my stereo or PC and burn the songs over there because wasting hours mixing and re-mixing just to burn one song is time I can not afford to be wasting, and I have 6 songs to do this with!

I don't understand why it has to be so difficult to use the internal CD burner, especially when everything is showing and sounding the way it is supposed to until I listen to what is supposed to be a saved final version of my mix which so far just turns out to be a save of everything before any mixing has been applied at all.

Any other ideas?

[carelessorc]

When you create a mixdown it's on tracks 1 and 2 of a new program, with the word 'mix' in it. This is the one you're listening to, right?
You need to pan track 1 hard left and track 2 hard right to hear the playback properly.
(even better use fader pairing).

Are you saving the scene on your original (mutlitrack) program, before internal mixdown? Otherwise you lose it when the machine changes to the new mix program.

Orc

[paz8473]

Originally Posted by carelessorc

When you create a mixdown it's on tracks 1 and 2 of a new program, with the word 'mix' in it. This is the one you're listening to, right?

Yes

Originally Posted by carelessorc

You need to pan track 1 hard left and track 2 hard right to hear the playback properly.
(even better use fader pairing).

I will give that a shot, I haven't been doing that.

Originally Posted by carelessorc

Are you saving the scene on your original (mutlitrack) program, before internal mixdown? Otherwise you lose it when the machine changes to the new mix program.

Orc

Yes, I have it saved, everytime I have tried to get the proper int mix I just keep recalling my settings, I have done this in the int mix mode and checked to be sure everything is there, all seems to be well while I'm saving the int mix, but when I play it back it's not the way I had it set, possibly due to not setting the tracks as you mentioned above.

[spanishgrass@cs]

I'd like to hear more about panning the finished mix on tracks 1-2. Are you saying pan and then mix again then burn the CD?

[paz8473]

I'll be damned, mystery solved, after int mixdown pan 1 left and 2 right, Thanks orc!

[paz8473]

Originally Posted by spanishgrass@cs

I'd like to hear more about panning the finished mix on tracks 1-2. Are you saying pan and then mix again then burn the CD?

I don't think you would need to mix them again because once it is burned to a CD and played through a stereo the left and right signals are automatically seperated.

[billisa]

Originally Posted by paz8473

I don't think you would need to mix them again because once it is burned to a CD and played through a stereo the left and right signals are automatically seperated.

Correct. Track 1 of a "MIX..." program goes all to the left channel of the CD, 2 all to the right channel.

[glynb]

yeh, this is a really annoying feature.

If I could make just one modification it would be that the VF recognises internal mixdown tracks and automatically hard-pans then left and right - it's most annoying having to pan them yourself each time you want to check out a mixdown.

Ho hum.