preamp Colours and Flavors

[walters]

Which Preamps give Colours and Flavors ?


What causes a Preamp to have different Colours and Flavors?



Some Preamps are clean and transparent but i want preamps that have

Alot of colour and Flavors to add to the sound what causes this effect?

[Ivan Moskovitz]

I recomend transformer premamp to colour sound. it has iron to sound.

first - transformer has magnet, big to provide colour. warm flavour

second - beter than capacitor but not as transparent

try neve or api? maybe these have the flavour you quest.

good luck as they say

[Ivan Moskovitz]

oh one more thing. try experiment with sound. use different frequency preamps - not just one. this will make the frequency more different.

Ivan

[walters]

what is a Frequency preamps?

How do i know what frequency the preamp is?


The Frequency of the preamp is Fix but how do i know what frequency

it is thats its colourations to the audio signal?

[AGCurry]

You GO, Ivan! Kol hakavod.

[Dogman]

Tengo gusto de la vainilla, con una torcedura de la cal. Buena mierda maldita.

[northsiderap]

Originally Posted by walters

Which Preamps give Colours and Flavors ??

There are many things to consider when trying to ascertain the 'colour' or 'flavour' of a preamplification stage. Read on.

Originally Posted by walters

What causes a Preamp to have different Colours and Flavors??

We shall start with a 'signal' of a defined impedance entering into the preamplifier via the connector. The preamplifier stage ideally has 5 to 10 times the input circuit impedance than the output circuit impedance from the previous stage. Also, one must take care not to saturate the input stage of the preamplifier to distortion or cutoff ranges by matching the handleable voltage and impedance charactaristics from the output source into the preamp. One can measure, calculate, and estimate the compatibility of a preamplifier stage to a particular source by comparing the range of voltages, DBv, or DBu that the preamplifier stage may handle to the voltage, DBv, or DBu of the source using (in the example of DBv which is referenced to 1V - Assuming 'X' is your signal voltage) 20*Log (X/1)

From the input, the 'signal' can be handled in many ways. A differential bipolar transistorized input device will often have a low noise level and great frequency response, but will lack the saturation and isolation of a tranformer debalanced input. One may also use a pair of opamps to debalance the signal, often at the expense of a higher noise floor and perhaps artifacts from the inexact matching of the two devices. A transormer isolated input may not be necessary if the impedance of the input stage matches the inpedance of the input bipolar device, tube, or opamp. However, this most likely means that the interface should be coupled with a high-quality DC blocking capacitor, which often imparts its own subtle charactaristic tonal modulation to the input signal.

A transformerized input will not only isolate the output from the input of the preamplifier, it will also impart its own characteristics into an audio signal. Some of these modulations include the tendency to oscillate or 'ring' at higher frequencies, which can be measured by passing square waves of differing frequencies through the impedance reflection loaded transformer and visually ascertaining whether or not the transformer is causing said frequencies to resonate, often using the analysis of a digital waveform capture or oscillascope. This can also be caused by the physical charactaristics of the transformer itself, as the transformer will act like a reverse transducer and vibrate at the resonant frequency of which it was physically constructed to. A transformer also imparts the modulation of 'saturation' and 'inductance, capacitance, & resistance' upon the signal while passing through the electromagnetically charged coils, through a speciallized laminated conductive core, and re-instated into a differing ratio of coils. Output impedance converting or direct coupling (1:1) transformers can also be used.

Originally Posted by walters

Some Preamps are clean and transparent but i want preamps that have Alot of colour and Flavors to add to the sound what causes this effect?

Each method of amplification and device coupling imparts its own sonic characteristics into the signal.
Bipolar or Field-Effect devices are usually linear, but are often capacitance coupled, which can reduce the lower end of the audible response due to phase shift filtering. One must also take into consideration the delay, Miller Capacitance, and phase shifting effect of the reverse diode within the bipolar amplification device, often due to the depletion layer of a reverse-biased or field-effected PN or NP junction.
Vacuum tube amplification utilizes much higher voltages, and is not often practical in a location where an ample supply of electricity is not available. Often a vacuum tube configuration is also transformer or capacitance coupled; in the former case one often has to utilize a low-pass filter below RF to minimize 'ringing' entering the initial preamplifier stage, and in the latter case the high-pass filtering often occurs. Even order harmonics are often incurred here, and the vacuum tube amplification stage has often been referred to as 'controlled harmonic distortion' or transconductive amplification.

[scrubs]

I like strawberries. Oh, and chocolate. Mmmmmm....

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally Posted by walters

what is a Frequency preamps?

There's no such thing - stop making shit up.........

Originally Posted by walters

How do i know what frequency the preamp is?

There's no such thing - stop making shit up.........

Originally Posted by walters

The Frequency of the preamp is Fix but how do i know what frequency it is thats its colourations to the audio signal?

This not even a sentence, let alone a coherent thought............

Your first question on how preamps colour the sound was excellent - I thought maybe there was hope for you..... but then you went and blew it with the above bullshit............. no surprise, I guess - given your track record...............

[true-eurt]

Originally Posted by scrubs

I like strawberries. Oh, and chocolate. Mmmmmm....

Don't forget the Champagne......and maybe a spanking?

[scrubs]

Originally Posted by true-eurt

Don't forget the Champagne......and maybe a spanking?

I do enjoy champagne. You do seem a bit obsessed with the spanking thing, though. Not that I'm complaining, mommy.

[true-eurt]

Originally Posted by scrubs

I do enjoy champagne. You do seem a bit obsessed with the spanking thing, though. Not that I'm complaining, mommy.

Good boy!......... And I have been known to be obsessive in the twisted elements of deranged thinking...But not the least faineant.

[walters]

Thanks Northsiderap for believing in me and taking me serious

your information is great your the man of your craft

[Monkey Allen]

Go and get some sun

[giraffe]

walters makes me glad i have a life.

[walters]

Setting up different preamps and compressor at UNITY GAIN and just

let the audio run through the circuit design i heard get alot of

Colouration


PRE PRODUCTION Colouration tricks or tips i can do?

POST PRODUCTION colouration tricks or tips i can do?

[Ivan Moskovitz]

Unity gain on coloured preamp will have coloured sound. Because it is coloured preamp.

Pre preproduction - use coloured preamp to add special colour to special sound. Vocal Lead, Guitar Lead. Special sound that needs colour

Post production - use preamp to overdub? I don't understand question.

What preamps do you use?
How do you set knobs?
This changes everything.

[walters]

Do you know what preamps i can buy that are coloured preamps?

Which preamps are Coloured preamps?


Setting compressors up for unity gain will give colour also

do you know what compressors have alot of colour to the sound?


I want to get as much colour in the tracks and mixing how can i do

this?

[walters]

I use the GT-6 for different amp modelings,different speakers, preamps modelings


I have to re-amp the Clone duplicated tracks to the Aux send and returns

throught the GT-6 to get different Colourations for each clone duplicated

tracks

Do you know any other ways i can get more Colourations tricks?

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally Posted by walters

Do you know any other ways i can get more Colourations tricks?

Yes... paint your recording media with fluorescent colors....

idiot............

[walters]

Thanks kare bear

[BRDTS]

Looks like all of Walters audioforum.com posts have just been deleted by the moderators over there. That's about six forums in a row according to the conversation I was just reading elsewhere. Probably due here too, don't you think?

[Dogman]

Nós começaremos com ' um sinal ' de um impedance definido que participa no pré-amplificador através do conector. O estágio do pré-amplificador tem idealmente 5 a 10 vezes o impedance do circuito de entrada do que o impedance do circuito de saída do estágio precedente. Também, um deve ciao para não saturate o estágio da entrada do pré-amplificador às escalas da distorção ou da interrupção combinando o charactaristics handleable da tensão e do impedance da fonte da saída no preamp. Um pode medir, para calcular, e para estimar a compatibilidade de um estágio do pré-amplificador a uma fonte particular comparando a escala das tensões, do DBv, ou do DBu que o estágio do pré-amplificador pode segurar à tensão, ao DBv, ou ao DBu da fonte usando (no exemplo de DBv que referenced ao 1V - supor ' X ' está sua tensão do sinal) 20*Log (X/1) da entrada, ' o sinal ' pode ser segurado em muitas maneiras. Um dispositivo de entrada transistorizado bipolar diferencial terá frequentemente um nível de ruído baixo e uma resposta de freqüência grande, mas faltará o saturation e a isolação de um tranformer debalanced a entrada. Um pode também usar um par dos opamps ao debalance o sinal, frequentemente à custa de um assoalho mais elevado e talvez dos artifacts do ruído de combinar inexact dos dois dispositivos. Uma entrada isolada transormer não pode ser necessária se o impedance do estágio da entrada combinar o inpedance do dispositivo bipolar da entrada, do tubo, ou do opamp. Entretanto, isto significa muito provável que a relação deve ser acoplada com um capacitor de obstrução de alta qualidade da C.C., que dê frequentemente sua própria modulação charactaristic subtle do tonal ao sinal de entrada. A transformerized a entrada isolará não somente a saída da entrada do pré-amplificador, ele dará também suas próprias características em um sinal audio. Algumas destas modulações incluem a tendência oscilar ou ' soar ' em umas freqüências mais elevadas, que possam ser medidas passando ondas quadradas de freqüências diferindo através do transformador carregado reflexão do impedance e visualmente verificando se ou não o transformador está fazendo com que as freqüências ditas resonate, frequentemente usando a análise de uma captação ou de um oscillascope digital do waveform. Isto pode também ser causado pelo charactaristics físico do transformador próprio, porque o transformador agirá como um transdutor reverso e vibrará na freqüência resonant de que foi construído fisicamente. Um transformador dá também a modulação ' do saturation ' e ' da indutância, da capacidade, & da resistência ' em cima do sinal quando passar através das bobinas eletromagnètica carregadas, com a speciallized o núcleo condutor laminado, e restabelecido em uma relação diferindo das bobinas. Os transformadores converter-se do impedance da saída ou de acoplamento direto (1:1) podem também ser usados.

[ez_willis]

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[true-eurt]

Originally Posted by BRDTS

Looks like all of Walters audioforum.com posts have just been deleted by the moderators over there. That's about six forums in a row according to the conversation I was just reading elsewhere. Probably due here too, don't you think?

Crap! That means all of Ezwillis' post are gone too....All those lovely essays...... duhhhh...I should do something about this ADD...He said just Walters' post......... And I was starting to become a bit fond of Walters too.....