Help me complete my recording chain

[ChoppinBroccoli]

Hi there, I'm looking for a preamp to fit in my recording chain that looks as follows:

1962 RI Fender Strat -> Fender Blues Jr. Amp -> SM57 -> ?????? -> Audiophile 24/96 -> Computer using Cubase

Basically I'd like it if the warm sound of the Blues Jr. doesn't get lost along the way down the line. Also my price range is <$300. I'm considering either the Presonus BlueTube or the DMP3. What do y'all think?

[bigwillz24]

DMP3

Now I have to lenghten this post to 10 characters....

[ChoppinBroccoli]

Yea i'm leaning towards the DMP3. But I've heard that it lacks the warmth of a tube preamp. Does anyone know if the warmth that my Blues Jr. amp provides will be lost once the signal goes through the DMP3?

Thanks

[reshp1]

No, the DMP3 is very transparent. If your warmth is already there, the DMP3 won't strip it away. Cheap "toob" gear like the blue tube use different circuits than higher end tube pre's. The cheap stuff just dirties up the signal and sells it as "warmth"
Go with the DMP3, but what's wrong with using the pre's on your audiophile?

[ChoppinBroccoli]

The audiophile 2496 soundcard has pres? I always thought you needed to boost the signal with a preamp before going into the audiophile? If i'm wrong then that's great -- no need to spend the extra $$

[ripingitar]

Just Get A Line 6 !!@#@!!!!

[ChoppinBroccoli]

I'm trying to stay away from the line 6 stuff -- never really been a fan. Thanks for the input tho.

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally Posted by ChoppinBroccoli

The audiophile 2496 soundcard has pres? I always thought you needed to boost the signal with a preamp before going into the audiophile? If i'm wrong then that's great -- no need to spend the extra $$

The 2496 has no onboard pres... only line level RCA-type analog I/O, S/PDIF digital I/O, and midi I/O...........

[Dot]

M-Audio Tampa channel strip for $328 right here http://www.floridamusicco.com/prodde...artner=froogle

While the DMP3 is a perfectly fine clean dual pre, the Tampa is considerably more box all the way around. One of the best deals on the market.

[chessrock]

Originally Posted by ChoppinBroccoli

But I've heard that it lacks the warmth of a tube preamp. Does anyone know if the warmth that my Blues Jr. amp provides will be lost once the signal goes through the DMP3?

Gotta' be careful of that stuff.

Just so long as you use unbalanced mic cable, you should be fine.

What happens when you use balanced cable is that it has a filtering mechanism that "filters out" unwanted noise and RF that accumulates as it travels down the wire, so to speak.

Unfortunately, it has a hard time distinguishing between RF and "warmth" from a tube guitar amplifier. So what happens a lot of time is the warmth gets canceled out. This can actually be a useful and desirable effect for emulating the sound of a solid state amp (popular technique with death metal bands), but I don't think you want that. What you want to do is retain the warmth that the unbalanced cable delivers.

I learned this from a thread the other day on this very forum.

[HangDawg]

Originally Posted by chessrock

Gotta' be careful of that stuff.

Just so long as you use unbalanced mic cable, you should be fine.

What happens when you use balanced cable is that it has a filtering mechanism that "filters out" unwanted noise and RF that accumulates as it travels down the wire, so to speak.

Unfortunately, it has a hard time distinguishing between RF and "warmth" from a tube guitar amplifier. So what happens a lot of time is the warmth gets canceled out. This can actually be a useful and desirable effect for emulating the sound of a solid state amp, but I don't think you want that.

I learned this from a thread the other day on this very forum.

[drummersteve]

Originally Posted by chessrock

Gotta' be careful of that stuff.

Just so long as you use unbalanced mic cable, you should be fine.

What happens when you use balanced cable is that it has a filtering mechanism that "filters out" unwanted noise and RF that accumulates as it travels down the wire, so to speak.

Unfortunately, it has a hard time distinguishing between RF and "warmth" from a tube guitar amplifier. So what happens a lot of time is the warmth gets canceled out. This can actually be a useful and desirable effect for emulating the sound of a solid state amp (popular technique with death metal bands), but I don't think you want that. What you want to do is retain the warmth that the unbalanced cable delivers.

I learned this from a thread the other day on this very forum.

a very nice and interesting bit of information!

[Blue Bear Sound]

Originally Posted by chessrock

Gotta' be careful of that stuff.

Just so long as you use unbalanced mic cable, you should be fine.

What happens when you use balanced cable is that it has a filtering mechanism that "filters out" unwanted noise and RF that accumulates as it travels down the wire, so to speak.

Unfortunately, it has a hard time distinguishing between RF and "warmth" from a tube guitar amplifier. So what happens a lot of time is the warmth gets canceled out. This can actually be a useful and desirable effect for emulating the sound of a solid state amp (popular technique with death metal bands), but I don't think you want that. What you want to do is retain the warmth that the unbalanced cable delivers.

I learned this from a thread the other day on this very forum.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Moon]

Originally Posted by chessrock

...emulating the sound of a solid state amp

The four stages of digesting that statement:

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However, I'm thinking that in the future, someone will use this as a marketing ploy! ...and the best part is, someone will fall for it!

-mr moon

[tubesrawsom]

avalon 737
or i know a dmp3

which ever you can afford

[heroics321]

my my chessrock, dem some big ballz.... and i mean that in a completely straight way.

chessrock: warping minds on homerecording.com since 2001.