how about this

[Nick The Man]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/444094/

how about these they would save me a few extra bucks (Strictly for recording) ...maybe get some remo heads with it

[patlang12]

I have seen someone reccommend that set to somebody before, but I think it was for an absolute beginner. I am not sure how great it is for recording. A lot of people have reccommeded the mapex voyager for recording. It is around $400.

[tourettes5139]

I have a really, really, crappy drum set, and I have actually suprised myself a couple times.

That being said, always remember:

you get what you pay for

[patlang12]

I read a post of yours from a little while ago that said that you had a cb set. I don't know much about drums, (I am in the market for a cheap set as well) but my guess is that those pulse drums won't be much different. Don't plan on using the cymbols that come with those drums either because I would be very surprised if they are any good. Before buying a new set get some new heads, and spend a bunch of time trying to tune them well. If you are still unhappy with them get a new set and you can keep those heads and put them on the new set if that helps. Like I said early I don't know very much about drums, but from the information I have learned here that is what I would do. Also people may be able to give you better recommendations if you list a price range. Also you said that you need new drums. What about cymbols? Many people spend more on cymbols and hardware than the drums themselves!

[RezN8]

Here's my 2 cents, for what it's worth.

With many kits in that low of a price range, I've found the hardware is usuallly where the problems start. Tons of rattle, ringing noises from cheap stands, etc. Then I'll check the bearing edges (where the head meets the rim). Many low priced kits have at least one drum out of round (if not all of them) or a spot in the drum that doesn't allow the head to 'seat' properly.

For just a few hundred more, you can get a kit good enough to record with, IMHO. I've had reasonable success with Tama Rockstars, Mapex V-series, and even the Yamaha Stage series (all under $500). But each kit had at least one problem or another, or had to be "doctored" a bit. (Duct tape goes a long way in the studio).

If you want to record decent drum tracks, get a decent drum kit. Then save up for the best cymbals you can find.

Otherwise, you're better off sampling. I mean you can take a cardboard box, smack it with your hand, sample it - put some reverb on it and bingo - instant bass drum or floor tom. But if you hit it too many times, the box becomes useless -- and so would a low-end drum kit. But a cardboard box is much cheaper than $200.

That's just my take on it. Peace, Rez

[Nick The Man]

yeah i was thinkign about the Pacific CX series too.....i was just seein if i could save myself some money... i guess not. by the way i am the drummer of the band so i do know quite a bit i just dont know what set to buy. my friend has the Pacific CX drums and they sound awesome!!.... but i dont know how they would translate onto recording.. some one please help i wanna make the right descion

[sile2001]

I have a Pacific MX kit (very much the same) and they record extremely well PROVIDED you have good heads on them, have them well tuned, and play them loud like drums were meant to be played.

I would say don't even bother looking at the pulse kit. I'm not even the drummer in our band, I just got a kit to learn and screw around on...and just one of my crashes and one of my splashes cost more than that "5 piece with cymbals" set.

[Nick The Man]

can you please post me a recording of your drums....if not what mics do you use

[sile2001]

Don't have any recordings of it available at the moment. The project files and mixdowns are all off on a hard drive in another city.

As for the mics...
Snare: Used either a Shure SM57 or a Shure Beta57. Very similar, but the Beta picks up a little more of the sharp crack if you have the snare tuned to that.
Kick: Shure Beta52. Took a bit of EQ'ing because the kick on the MX (and probably CX) tends to be a little bit boomy even with padding and different heads, so we actually had to drop the low freqs a very little bit on that track.
Overheads: Have used either a pair of Shure SM81's or a pair of M-Audio Solaris mics. I like the tone of each, but they are pretty different. The SM81's picked up a lot of the sparkle in the cymbals (we used Zildjian A Customs, so they're really bright), while the Solarii had a darker tone and picked up excellent clarity on the toms.

We didn't use any close mics on the hats or the toms because both sets of overheads did a phenomenal job both in tone and balance on the overall kit sound. Some time I want to try using the SM81's as the overheads and put a Solaris out in the room (it's a big room) in either cardiod or omni mode and see what that gets me.

REALLY pay attention to the heads you put on the kit. I'm using all Evans heads and they've been great for me. On the snare, I've got a Power Center Reverse Dot batter head and a Snare Side 300 Hazy snare head. The toms are all running Genera G2 coated batters and General G1 clear resonants. The kick has EQ3 clear batter and resonant heads.

I can't stress this enough....TUNING IS CRUCIAL. You can take the best kit and mics in the world, and if the kit's not tuned it can (and probably will) sound like crap.

[patlang12]

what style of music are you recording?

[sile2001]

It's all been "contemporary christian" (aka CCM), but I've always been frustrated with how wide that genre description is. We've recorded everything from southern rock style to pop-punk to almost hardcore, but it's all leaned more towards the rock end of the spectrum and less towards anything country or pop or the like.

[patlang12]

Ok thanks for letting me know

[Yareek]

I'll second the Pacific C or CX series as well...

I had a set of Pearl Session drums a while back, bought a 5-pc Pacific C-series for gigging for 225 off ebay...it blew away the Pearls so bad I sold the Pearls and kept the Pacifics! I've had nothing but compliments from soundguys and fellow musicians every time I play. Good "neutral" tone with great resonance.

I've used the Pacifics at over 50 shows and for some recording, they sound great. I'm still on stock heads, too, somehow. I use my Starclassics for recording, but damn those Pacifics are a deal.

The snare is kinda mediocre, but it's usuable.

- Jarick

[patlang12]

What kind of music do you play Yareek?

[Bigsnake00]

I just ordered a catalina club set, by Gretsch, Ill post some clips once I get them miced up

[Nick The Man]

yeah i was thinking about that catalina set as well ...cheap and if heard that small drums sound bigger one recording ...... please post a recording

[Bigsnake00]

they will be in tues.....so sometime next week

[Yareek]

Originally Posted by patlang12

What kind of music do you play Yareek?

Well, I mainly play rock music, modern stuff in the vein of Chevelle, Jimmy Eat World, Soundgarden, all that...

I just left my band, the website's at www.ignitionrocks.com...you can hear my home-recording skills over there Also, some nice shots of the Pacifics in use...

Gonna be getting something new together shortly, especially now that I just got my M201 and ordered some C4's, so that'll be fun.

- Jarick

[patlang12]

I couldn't find the songs on that web site. Could you link me directly to them?

[Bigsnake00]

I got the Catalinas in today. They are beautiful and sound great as well. I am waiting on some cymbals. Ive got a test to study for, but when Im done Ill try to post some samples.

[Nick The Man]

yeah yeah yeah i really wanna hear it

ps what kind of heads did you put on it? if any
pss what mics did you use

[Nick The Man]

did you record it yet i really wanna hear it

[EdWonbass]

I just bought a cheap ass set of drums made by Hohner. Some guy was selling them for $100 so I thought WTF. I got them sounding pretty good so far. The cymbals are as bad as you would expect so I am going to find me a deal on cymbals soon. I think the main thing about drums is the hardware. If I was drummer I wouldn't think of gigging with the drums I just bought but they will probably never leave my studio so I can deal with the flimsy hardware. The guy who had them before me put some decent heads on them so I lucked out there.

[Bigsnake00]

I posted it out in the forum

[Yareek]

Alright, you'll wanna click on "Media" then on "Lyrics/Audio" then on one of the albums, then the song name...

I'm getting some C4's tomorrow...I'll have some sound clips up of my Tama's if you guys are interested

- Jarick