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Looking back over your recording history what has helped you develop your skills the most? What was the most important part of your eduacation?

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Looking back over your recording history what has helped you develop your skills the most? What was the most important part of your eduacation?

The web forums, magazines etc...?
Hands on recording... just doing it...?
A tutor or mentor, someone to show you how?
Learn skills! Pah... I was born with these super powers!
Hands on, almost 80%, the rest was advice from this bbs and the great people who hang out here....
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I'd say it's been a mix of my own curiosity with recording from an early age with 4 track cassette recorders all the way through to building my own daw and integrating it with a large frame console.

Id say my knowledge and mixing skills have gone 10 fold since discovering this place in the past few years though. Great board & great people.

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Hands (and ears) on experience on a lot of different types of bands. You can get myopic recording just yourself or just your band. After you've recorded 50 60 different drummers and drum sets you realize it's more than just the mics and positions. You learn what to listen for and what you can expect to get from the mics.
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Great band there Handsome Al... just started a new Celtic band here in Ohio
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Experimentation.

I wish I had paid more attention to what Don Dixon and Mitch Easter did when they recorded my band's albums in the 80s...

I was more into fighting with bandmates.
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Where are the superheros? Show yourselves!

Preferably fly in through my window and fix my mixes for me...

...and if the results keep coming in like this maybe we should just close down the forum and all spend more time practising and less time sitting around chatting about it!

Come to think of it I haven't recorded a damn thing since I joined this forum... and how Rokket gets anything tracked is a mystery to me... I don't think I've ever seen a thread that doesn't have that goofy character staring back at me!
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Mostly hands-on, but you can never read or talk to others about audio enough. That's why I love this site. I've also been fortunate enough to have two of the top pro engineers in my area give me a few recording and mixing tips.
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Hands on, making mistakes, learning from them, making different mistakes.

I think the biggest breakthrough I had was when I realized that I couldn't control 100% what the final product was going to sound like. I used to start a project with a preconceived notion about EXACTLY how the thing was going to sound when we got finished. Then I'd get down in the dumps when it didn't sound that way.

Now I know, when you start into recording something, you never know just how it is going to turn out, especially when you have 4 or 5 or so other musicians involved. Things can take a creative turn right in the middle of the process and you wind up with something unexpected, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. When I figured that out, that's when I really started making recordings.
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Preferably fly in through my window and fix my mixes for me...

...and if the results keep coming in like this maybe we should just close down the forum and all spend more time practising and less time sitting around chatting about it!

Come to think of it I haven't recorded a damn thing since I joined this forum... and how Rokket gets anything tracked is a mystery to me... I don't think I've ever seen a thread that doesn't have that goofy character staring back at me!
Here comes the goofy character again! I spend so much time on here because I do it at work. When I am home, that's when I pull out my gear and track something.... When the family is out!
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I think the biggest breakthrough I had was when I realized that I couldn't control 100% what the final product was going to sound like.
I hear you, man. I just finished up recording a CD for a friend of mine - an 18-month project - and I'm not happy with what the mastering engineer did with a couple of my mixes. Most of it sounds great, though. I'm lucky in that in this case my concerns will be acted on. But that's not always so.
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i learned some great things from this board as well as web sites created by people who frequent this board.

i also learned some good things from magazines and some of the people who frequent this board who contribute to said magazines.

for all my 'hands on', there were some things that i was just plain wrong about. you can play golf day and night, but 1 day with a golf coach who is good at explaining things can save you from lots of bad habits.
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I had a great mentor who taught me how to listen, not just hear, but to listen. From there I was able to devise many of my own techniques and develop my style as an engineer but his tutelage was invaluable.

I learned most of what I know from reading and hands on and thinking about this crap when I couldn't sleep at night... but the basics, the foundations for the journey were laid by the my mentor.
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I had a great mentor who taught me how to listen, not just hear, but to listen. From there I was able to devise many of my own techniques and develop my style as an engineer but his tutelage was invaluable.

I learned most of what I know from reading and hands on and thinking about this crap when I couldn't sleep at night... but the basics, the foundations for the journey were laid by the my mentor.
So, how come I'm the only person who checked the "mentor" box?
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I think you being everyone's mentor comes under the 'web and reading' box, if that's what you're asking
No, I was asking Fletcher why he didn't check the "mentor" box if most of what he learned came from a mentor. I checked the "mentor" box because my experience came from a lot of different mentors over the course of my life. I'll bet he didn't vote, just commented.
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I'll bet he didn't vote, just commented.
I just checked this list. He didn't vote... You were right, Harvey.
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No, I was asking Fletcher why he didn't check the "mentor" box if most of what he learned came from a mentor. I checked the "mentor" box because my experience came from a lot of different mentors over the course of my life. I'll bet he didn't vote, just commented.
Harvey, if you click on the numbers on the right in the survey you can see who voted and for what.
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Well ... I'm still telling you that's how it is ... you're everyone's online mentor. Of course if you want hands-on ... I'll come to you, or you could visit me and bring those headphones you owe me
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