A new way to mic drums

[Rock Star 87]

i'm on a buzz from smokin' that herb last night, and I came up with a good idea while listening to Len (the band that did "Steal My Sunshine", and it's a great album"), and i thought of something. If someone could put a mic in each stick, and design it so that it wouldn't clip, maybe a lot of insulation, and also put a mic in the bass drum kicker thingy, wouldn't that be a lot easier and clearer than open mics on the kit. I haven't figured out how to mic the hi-hat yet though. I'm not a drummer, but I like to think i have a hint enough to respect them and realize the struggle involved in micing a kit. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[chadsxe]

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[HangDawg]

Originally Posted by Rock Star 87

i'm on a buzz from smokin' that herb last night, and I came up with a good idea while listening to Len (the band that did "Steal My Sunshine", and it's a great album"), and i thought of something. If someone could put a mic in each stick, and design it so that it wouldn't clip, maybe a lot of insulation, and also put a mic in the bass drum kicker thingy, wouldn't that be a lot easier and clearer than open mics on the kit. I haven't figured out how to mic the hi-hat yet though. I'm not a drummer, but I like to think i have a hint enough to respect them and realize the struggle involved in micing a kit. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

You need to lay off the dope.

[firby]

Rock on dude.

Just don't use my mics!!!

One time when I was baked Fela Kuti appeared to me in a vision and told me some shit.

I was just trippin though.

[Rock Star 87]

seriously, i'm straight now, and i still think it's a good idea. what's wrong with it.

[RedJenkins]

i can't believe you actually came up with that idea...

[fldrummer]

Would you have a wireless transmitter in the sticks also? I think it would just sound like a lotta noise with the mics moving around like that. Theirs alot of wind and drummers dont hit the same place every time. It would realy throw off the balance of the stick which would just really mess up the drummer. It might work with These

Where did you get this dope you say of?!?!?!

Maybe rig the drummers head with a 5 point/mic surround sound system. That would be intresting

[Rock Star 87]

sure it has it's kinks, but those will get worked out before a rough design even. about it being off balance, couldn't somebody engineer a lightweight mic that doesn't sound like shit. the mic would pick up sounds all around it, and the end of the stick would have sound vents. surely there must be a way to put this to good use.

[Supercreep]

Just use a couple SM58s.

[HangDawg]

Talk about proximity effect. You don't get much closer to the source as you do when hitting it WITH the mic. Better use omnis

[GABritton]

Dude, the sound your want to record mainly is not the stick hitting the plastic head, it's the durm resonating...if all you wanted was the drum stick hitting the plastic head, then you could buy some plastic, nail it to a board and call it a drum.......no.....

Then you also have to think about response time, by the time you hit the snare drum, and move your drum stick to your next drum hit, you've already missed that sound you were trying to capture cause you're moving very fast. Your drum attack is different than the sound of the drum shell resonating...you want a good balance of the two...

I smoke a lot of weed, but damn!!!

[Herm]

Thats sound as goofy as the guy that wanted me to tape a pzm mic to my chest.

[MadAudio]

Originally Posted by Herm

Thats sound as goofy as the guy that wanted me to tape a pzm mic to my chest.

Actually, I think Neil Peart did that once.


Or maybe it was a myth that I believed 'cause I was high at the time!

[noodles2k5]

Why don't you use a couple tiny pole mics in place of your drumsticks and tell us how it sounds. I bet it's just like herb and Len,















... crappy.

[mcolling]

Originally Posted by Supercreep

Just use a couple SM58s.

lol. that's doable! someone with two 58's should try it and post the results. the mics could handle that, just play quiet. i'd do it but, i only have one 58.

come on!!!!!

[toemaster]

Nothing to do with micing drums or sticks but one time a buddy and me were just jamming. He is a bass player and I a guitar player. Well, anyway, he went on to tell me that he quit doing acid because he had a bad trip. I've never tried the stuff so I asked what was a bad trip and he said that while playing he hallucinated that his bass melted in his lap. That was enough for me. I couldn't imagine my rick melting in my lap. Drugs Bad. Very very bad. Well, most of them......

[Supercreep]

Drummers like to drum with drumsticks, not mics. The balance would be screwed up. Also, seven bucks is enough for a pair of drumsticks, but not enough to cover a matched pair of quality SDCs. Wind noise, phase issues, proximity effect, cost, weight.......


Seriously, there are so many reasons this wouldn't work it's wacky. But if you built it, somebody would buy it and ask here how it compares to a U87. Somebody might suggest you use the drumsticks as overheads - that type of thing. You should just drum with a pair of C1000s to get this out of your system.

[mcolling]

Originally Posted by Supercreep

But if you built it, somebody would buy it and ask here how it compares to a U87.

yeah, i can see the threads now...

"Best drumstick mic under $100??"
"Poll: Neumann or Drumstick mic?"
"Good Drumstick Mic for Vocals and Acoustic Guitar?"
etc.

Anyhow, you totally could drum with two sm58s! somebody give it a try and post the results- I'm begging!!!!

[Bassman Brad]

Originally Posted by Supercreep

Just use a couple SM58s.

This may very well be the ONLY application for 58's that haven't been tried before. We may be witnessing history in the making, folks!



Brad

[notbradsohner]

hey rock star,

I will buy every last one in production if you can get a company to produce and sell somehting like that.

[notbradsohner]

ps.

Im gonna drum with some old dynamic mics tomorrow and I promise Ill post the results here. Still not sure what im gonna do about the kick.

[Bassman Brad]

Originally Posted by notbradsohner

Still not sure what im gonna do about the kick.

You could tape a D112 to the front of your shoe, I suppose.

Man, this is all just too funny. Makes me glad I gave that shit up.

Brad

[geet73]

Originally Posted by notbradsohner

ps.

Im gonna drum with some old dynamic mics tomorrow and I promise Ill post the results here. Still not sure what im gonna do about the kick.

I'm eager to hear it. Muaha.

[MemoGtr]

hahahaha i wanna hear that too
now, seriously...if you make aside the weight problem...you still have the phase issues...imaging both mics moving like crazy all over the kit and then listening in mono...all the "swoosh'ish" sound haha

but hey, maybe smoking that shit will make you come up with an idea of mic'ing a classic guitar by putting tiny mics on your fingers (just kidding)

[Ptownkid]

Man, I'm not sure what's worse, the idea, or admitting to liking Len