What would I use to get electronic sounds?

[Myriad_Rocker]

Like beats and sounds and stuff...stuff like Rob Zombie uses occasionally...there's also a band locally that uses it live.

I'm looking for some plug-in's that will do the job well for me.

[cstockdale]

a synthesizer, sampler, soft synth ... there are way too many to mention.

Are you using Sonar? If so, it comes with some soft synths, drum sequencers that you can use to that effect. You will either need pre-recorded samples to trigger, or make your own.

[Myriad_Rocker]

I guess I'm talking about a soft synth....there aren't sounds already built into that?

What is the holy grail? Is there something I could purchase?

And yes, I have Sonar.

[Qwerty]

Originally Posted by Myriad_Rocker

What is the holy grail?

Creativity, research, persistence and practice.

Q.

[Myriad_Rocker]

The holy grail of soft synths....didn't think I would have to clarify...

[cstockdale]

well, the DR-008 is a sequencer bundled with Sonar, you have your Edirol VSC soft synth,...numerous other soft synth plugs that you will have to play with to see which sounds you like. Sorry, there is no short cut.

Which version of Sonar are you running?

[Myriad_Rocker]

Sonar 3: Producer Edition

I've never bothered with electronic type sounds. I have just always recorded and mixed guitar tracks...but I have some ideas to incorporate electronic/synth type sounds into my music.

So...where do the sounds come from? Do I already have them within Sonar?

[cstockdale]

yes, they are already there. Check out some of the tutorials on MIDI, soft synths etc. They are in the help section, or in the manual

[acidrock]

If you've got a VST adaptor there's amillion freebies out there.
I think you're eligible for a Triangle synth download and a bundled pack of VST's from the Cakewalk sie.
Other than that the Crystal synth is a popular freebie.

[AlChuck]

So...where do the sounds come from? Do I already have them within Sonar?

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yes, they are already there.

No they aren't.

SONAR has no sounds in it.

Softsynths either create sounds themselves, use wavetables or other stored, digitized sound data as raw materials, or some combination thereof. Thus the sounds are either stored in a file that the softsynth uses, or are created and manipulated by the algorithms in the softsynth's code, but they are not in SONAR. SONAR hosts them, and allows you to route and record them, but the sounds are not in SONAR.

[fraserhutch]

Originally Posted by AlChuck

No they aren't.

SONAR has no sounds in it.

Softsynths either create sounds themselves, use wavetables or other stored, digitized sound data as raw materials, or some combination thereof. Thus the sounds are either stored in a file that the softsynth uses, or are created and manipulated by the algorithms in the softsynth's code, but they are not in SONAR. SONAR hosts them, and allows you to route and record them, but the sounds are not in SONAR.

To the best of my knowledge, softsynths have been bundled with Sonar for a while.

[cstockdale]

well, we are splitting hairs here. Soft synths are bundled with Sonar, and you can use them and make sounds. Whether they are IN sonar or not is entirely academic. I have Sonar, I have soft-synths that came with it, I can make electronic sounds...therefore I said "they are in sonar".

[AlChuck]

I don't think it's academic. I can't begin to count the number of times people think that MIDI sounds are embedded within Sonar -- people thinking that the instrument definition files tell Sonar which of its sounds to play, that sort of thing, and are confused about why they keep hearing the same cheesy soundcard piano when they change instrument definitions.

I think it's important to understand that the sounds come from devices that you are using SONAR to trigger. Being bundled with Sonar is not equivalent to being an integral part of Sonar. Talking about it this way is just bound to help confuse people that are new to this stuff.

[Myriad_Rocker]

Okay, so when making "electronic sounds" ala Rob Zombie or whatever....I'm limited to the sounds that are loaded onto my computer from Windows?

[acidrock]

Just click on the synth rack icon or go view/synth rack.
When the synth rack appears in the upper left hand corner there will be an icon that you can right click.
This will give you a list of instruments that you have installed.
By the sound of your post that should just be the default Sonar stuff.

You should really crack open the manual,it's all in there.

[Myriad_Rocker]

Thanks, I'll definately check that out tonight.

[Elmo89m]

THis is a little different from your question but the spacey setting on fxDelay gives an awesome electric vibe to a track