sustain - just a thought

[AlfredB]

ok, we are all guitar crazy here, and can argue all day over bolt on - set neck - neck throug designs ... because we all like SUSTAIN, right????


what about the fact that we press all our guitars against our (possibly too fat) bellies - thus deadening or altering all kind of vibrations?

isnt this little, but overlooked fact more important than other design facts????


any thoughts?
thx
alfred

[gvarko]

But how else can you play without touching the guitar to your belly? Whether sitting or standing that is the place the guitar seems to hit.. A stand that holds the guitar for you is the only way to go..

[Outlaws]

Originally Posted by AlfredB

ok, we are all guitar crazy here, and can argue all day over bolt on - set neck - neck throug designs ... because we all like SUSTAIN, right????


what about the fact that we press all our guitars against our (possibly too fat) bellies - thus deadening or altering all kind of vibrations?

isnt this little, but overlooked fact more important than other design facts????


any thoughts?
thx
alfred

I don't know about you, but my belly produces soundwaves all day long. Its constant. It doesn't go way. And when I put the guitar on it actually gets amplified.

It has been said to sound like those underwater recordings of whales, but I say its more like a dolphin looking for tuna.

[apl]

My guitar sounds best when I'm not touching it. Like when my teacher is playing it.

[acorec]

Originally Posted by AlfredB

ok, we are all guitar crazy here, and can argue all day over bolt on - set neck - neck throug designs ... because we all like SUSTAIN, right????


what about the fact that we press all our guitars against our (possibly too fat) bellies - thus deadening or altering all kind of vibrations?

isnt this little, but overlooked fact more important than other design facts????


any thoughts?
thx
alfred

I can say that:
I was told in 1984 that if I used a matchbook cover to raise the neck on my Strat that is would "move" and never stay in tune etc. by pests that built guitars.

It is now 2005. My fav strat is still exactly the way I assembled it in 1984 and has been through recording, live playing and several moves. It is still in tune and has not moved at all.

It also has a ton of sustain. More than some Les Pauls I have played.

Some things sound really good in theory, but real examples can, and do, defy many of the principles.

[donkeystyle]

Originally Posted by AlfredB

ok, we are all guitar crazy here, and can argue all day over bolt on - set neck - neck throug designs ... because we all like SUSTAIN, right????


what about the fact that we press all our guitars against our (possibly too fat) bellies - thus deadening or altering all kind of vibrations?

isnt this little, but overlooked fact more important than other design facts????


any thoughts?
thx
alfred

it may be important, but it's unalterable, so everything else becomes more important.

[mixmkr]

ah....already been thought of donkeybreath....take a look at this..
also for mandos too.
http://janetdavismusic.com/dreadgard.html

[donkeystyle]

Originally Posted by mixmkr

ah....already been thought of donkeybreath....take a look at this..
also for mandos too.
http://janetdavismusic.com/dreadgard.html

ok. so i was wrong........it still didn't keep it off the leg though. but there's something i forgot about when i made my first post that would probably work even better than that thing. Do you remember those stands that were out for a while that were made for people that wanted to stand up and play their acoustic, but not wear a strap? i think one of the marketing gimmicks was that it was always in the same place/position.kind of a set it and forget it type thing. i don't remember for sure though.

but i think we were talking about electric guitars.

and was donkeybreath really neccessary? it wasn't funny, or even clever, at least not in the context you used it in. you were playing off of an already lame joke and made it worse. the term donkeystyle came about from a group of my friends deciding that it would be funny(in a lame way) to add donkey to certain terms. like the terms "balls out" and "balls out rock and roll"it was turned into "donkeyballs out" and "donkeyballs out rock'n Roll." then a couple of us decided to write a parody rap song. we decided to call it donkeystyle. not because we genuinely thought it was funny, well i mean we did think it was funny, but you would have to know our sense of humor i guess.......it was funny because it wasn't. that's the paraphrased version of the story.

so basically, I already knew it was lame and the only person you've made look foolish is yourself.

[SHEPPARDB.]

Originally Posted by AlfredB

ok, we are all guitar crazy here, and can argue all day over bolt on - set neck - neck throug designs ... because we all like SUSTAIN, right????


what about the fact that we press all our guitars against our (possibly too fat) bellies - thus deadening or altering all kind of vibrations?

isnt this little, but overlooked fact more important than other design facts????


any thoughts?
thx
alfred

What about nu-metal guys that are obnoxiously scrawny and have zero
tone?
It is not a factor,tone comes from the right Guitar,the right amp,fingers,and an imagination that can make all three work together.
an

[mixmkr]

Originally Posted by donkeystyle

ok. so i was wrong........it still didn't keep it off the leg though. but there's something i forgot about when i made my first post that would probably work even better than that thing. Do you remember those stands that were out for a while that were made for people that wanted to stand up and play their acoustic, but not wear a strap? i think one of the marketing gimmicks was that it was always in the same place/position.kind of a set it and forget it type thing. i don't remember for sure though.

but i think we were talking about electric guitars.

and was donkeybreath really neccessary? it wasn't funny, or even clever, at least not in the context you used it in. you were playing off of an already lame joke and made it worse. the term donkeystyle came about from a group of my friends deciding that it would be funny(in a lame way) to add donkey to certain terms. like the terms "balls out" and "balls out rock and roll"it was turned into "donkeyballs out" and "donkeyballs out rock'n Roll." then a couple of us decided to write a parody rap song. we decided to call it donkeystyle. not because we genuinely thought it was funny, well i mean we did think it was funny, but you would have to know our sense of humor i guess.......it was funny because it wasn't. that's the paraphrased version of the story.

so basically, I already knew it was lame and the only person you've made look foolish is yourself.

my guess is you are too young to have seen Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon (aka Moosebreath).


My sincerest apologies if you feel that you were offended by my post. That was not my intentions, only to show the product.

btw...the item you might be thinking of is the stand that will hold a guitar, allowing you to walk up an play it, along the lines of what Steve Howe of Yes used on stage.

As a final note, you ought to be aware that your screen name potentially might make others think of something other that what you allude it to be....unless you prefer sheep

[donkeystyle]

i was just being an ass. i started out intending to joke about it, but as i started typing, it just turned into me kind of being bitchy.

and yeah i'm too young to have seen carson and mcmahon. but i'm not a talkshow fan, especially not late night carson/letterman/leno/o'brian type talk shows. so even if i wasn't too young to know what you were referencing, I probably still wouldn't have known.

[Gabriel_0]

Originally Posted by AlfredB

ok, we are all guitar crazy here, and can argue all day over bolt on - set neck - neck throug designs ... because we all like SUSTAIN, right????


what about the fact that we press all our guitars against our (possibly too fat) bellies - thus deadening or altering all kind of vibrations?

isnt this little, but overlooked fact more important than other design facts????


any thoughts?
thx
alfred

Hmmm ... never seemed to bother Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Jimi Page, Carlos Santana, Steve Hackett, Jeff Beck, Dave Gilmour