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if the MXL2001 is such a crappy mic,

why are they still being bought and sold? Granted, the price has dropped, but the package with the 603 seems to be going strong.

Ok...tell me the obvious
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why are they still being bought and sold? Granted, the price has dropped, but the package with the 603 seems to be going strong.

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For the same reason that the AKG C3000 and C1000 still sell well; "bright" = "detailed", to the untrained ear, at least, at first. After you've lived with those kinds of mics for a while, you start to hear the problems.

And it's not that they have a rising treble response - they have very sharp peaks at various frequencies that are impossible to eq out.
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They aren't that crappy, there are just others that people like better.

You actually answered you own question. The price is low, particularly when bundled with the 603.

But to really answer your question, they are being sold because they still have some in inventory.
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I guess I'll never get my ears trained, or I'm not that picky. Maybe I got lucky and the quality control accidently slipped me a half decent mic by mistake. Possible?

Probably is the ears, however. I find mic differences to be so subtle most of the time, that I find that mic selection is pretty far down the list of my concerns when recording. I am much more interested in getting good talant and something decent going into it in the first place, and that seems to usually waaay overcome any mic deficiancies and actually the mic I might choose.

That said, I realize I am probably missing out on bringing out the "best" of the sound source, but usually my mixes are negatively critiqued for things other than sound... stuff like separation, punch, low end punch and stuff like that...things related with dynamic control, and not sound capturing.

I find that sticking what is usually supposed to be the "right" mic, and finding a good sweet spot usually works 90% of the time. I don't audition mics that much, unless I am having trouble with vocals or something like that. Maybe I make lucky guesses??...or my mixes really do stink
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I find that sticking what is usually supposed to be the "right" mic, and finding a good sweet spot usually works 90% of the time. I don't audition mics that much, unless I am having trouble with vocals or something like that. Maybe I make lucky guesses??...or my mixes really do stink
I've said this dozen of times over the years; "Mic placement is often more important than mic selection."
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They aren't that crappy, there are just others that people like better.
Innovation is correct - They aren't that crappy, at least the one I had wasn't. I would have keep it, but I needed some money, so I sold it. I might get another one sometime. I was really surprised - not bad at all.
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For the same reason that the AKG C3000 and C1000 still sell well; "bright" = "detailed", to the untrained ear, at least, at first. After you've lived with those kinds of mics for a while, you start to hear the problems.
Hey Harvey...If Bdgr's coffeehouse ever opens, and you're able to make it out to a show, I'm bringing my C3000 to trade straight up with any condenser mic you might have rolling around in the back of your truck.
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