How would you soundproof this room?

[fiber]

I have a room that is 10.5' by 9.5' and I am going to finish it off. The only thing right now are the stud's.

I listen to music at a high volume (but safe), and it makes my parents quite angry. I'm looking for the best way to soundproof the room.

I'm not worried about acoustic's at this time, but if a suggestion warrant's it, please let me know.

I will need to soundproof as best I can, the ceiling and the wall's (2 sides are just foundation, the other two are into the rest of the basement.

I have included link's to a simple paper drawing and a picture of the ceiling.

[Doink]

Break out the Sawzall and drywall mud.
The *best* way is to construct a double wall, hanging ceiling, and floating floor. A room within a room. But that's probably more than you need.
Dumb it down from there.

[Rod Gervais]

Originally Posted by fiber

I will need to soundproof as best I can, the ceiling and the wall's (2 sides are just foundation, the other two are into the rest of the basement.

Fiber,

What you need to do is 1st read through threads on isolation techniques, (just search using isolation as your key word) and read - read - read some more. It's a lot easier than us starting from scratch every time to explain the same things over and over again.

Then once you have a picture of what's involved - come back with specific questions of things you need some more explanation of.

You can also get a lot of info on these issues at:

Johnlsayers.com

and

recording.org in the acoustic forum.

Talk with you soon,

Rod

[KevinDrummer]

Fiber,

Just buy some foam.

No - just kidding.

You should probably also post your maximum allowable budget, so the folks here can give advise on the "best bang for the buck".

[Rod Gervais]

Originally Posted by KevinDrummer

You should probably also post your maximum allowable budget, so the folks here can give advise on the "best bang for the buck".

Fiber,

This is some real good advice as well........ it won't do you any good to get it all together if (in the end) you can't afford 1/2 of it.

Rod

[geomac1310]

I have the same problem with my basement rehersal/studio. I think that you might try to get some insulation for the rafters. I would then try to put up a drop cealing with the heavy accoustic tiles. Or you could try to place large shop or moving blankets up there. I saw it on a dvd and thought it was a pretty cool and COST EFFECTIVE way to deaden the sound.

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

I would then try to put up a drop cealing with the heavy accoustic tiles. Or you could try to place large shop or moving blankets up there. I saw it on a dvd and thought it was a pretty cool and COST EFFECTIVE way to deaden the sound.

Hmmmmmmmm, exactly why do you think "acoustical tiles or moving blankets" will improve transmission loss Drape one over your head and listen to a loud radio. He distinctly asked about isolation, not acoustics.
fitZ

[Todzilla]

Moving blankets are great in the studio. They help provide some highly portable high-end absorption and are great for wrapping fragile equipment for moves.

As sound-proofing they are so marginally effective as to be useless.

[geomac1310]

To Rick Fitzpatrick

To Rick Fitzpatrick.. Ok I Was Just Trying To Help......sorry I Am Having The Same Problem In My Planning In My Basement Studio. If I Was Wrong Then Tell Me Ohhh Great One How To You Would Isolate His Area.

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hello geomac1310, hey, no need to get snotty, I was simply asking for proof for your advice. We get many people here suggesting many things. I only ask for insight into someones advice. Hey, maybe you know something I don't. That wasn't much to ask, and that way I learn too. What if I told you CocaCola will stop a heart attack. BTW, I don't pretend to be high and mighty. As a matter of fact, you will find at least 100 examples on this board where I have posted my disclaimer which states I am NOT an expert. Nor did I claim anything in my reply. I simply asked what you based your advice on.
But since you asked, it's very simple, budget or NOT. If you want the best bang for the buck high transmission loss solution, a floating room within a room is your best bet. PERIOD. From there down, it is simply a matter of tradeoffs. Yes, you can build single two leaf walls with RC, and a ceiling hung by RC. However, every tradeoff is an increase in transmission to some degree. What the point is, determining HOW MUCH ISOLATION do you REALLY need, and what are you willing to pay and do to get it. PERIOD.
fitZ

[geomac1310]

I MIGHT OF NOT UNDERSTOOD HIS QUESTION I THOUGHT HE WAS TRYING TO DEADEN THE SOUND IN THE ROOM. IF WHAT I SAID WAS WRONG SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE BLANKETS WERE DUMB. AFTER ASKING MY FRIEND ABOUT THEM HE SAID I WAS A RETARD. HE SAID I COULD ROLL THEM UP AND STUFF THEM SOME WHERE. HE ALSO TOLD ME TO HAVE THE FLOATING WALLS AND A "ROOM WITHIN A ROOM". I THINK I WILL READ A LITTLE MORE ON THE SUBJECT.AS FOR THE BUILDING OF MY REHERSAL SPACE/ STUDIO FOR MY BAND, IF I DON'T KEEP IT A LITTLE QUIETER I THINK MY WIFE WILL KILL ME AND THE REST OF THE BAND. IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS I AM OPEN TO HEARING MORE FROM YOU. THANKS AND SORRY FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING.... GEORGE MACRIS GEOMAC1310

[geet73]

Originally Posted by geomac1310

I MIGHT OF NOT UNDERSTOOD HIS QUESTION I THOUGHT HE WAS TRYING TO DEADEN THE SOUND IN THE ROOM. IF WHAT I SAID WAS WRONG SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE BLANKETS WERE DUMB. AFTER ASKING MY FRIEND ABOUT THEM HE SAID I WAS A RETARD. HE SAID I COULD ROLL THEM UP AND STUFF THEM SOME WHERE. HE ALSO TOLD ME TO HAVE THE FLOATING WALLS AND A "ROOM WITHIN A ROOM". I THINK I WILL READ A LITTLE MORE ON THE SUBJECT.AS FOR THE BUILDING OF MY REHERSAL SPACE/ STUDIO FOR MY BAND, IF I DON'T KEEP IT A LITTLE QUIETER I THINK MY WIFE WILL KILL ME AND THE REST OF THE BAND. IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS I AM OPEN TO HEARING MORE FROM YOU. THANKS AND SORRY FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING.... GEORGE MACRIS GEOMAC1310

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[mshilarious]

Originally Posted by Doink

Break out the Sawzall and drywall mud.
The *best* way is to construct a double wall, hanging ceiling, and floating floor. A room within a room. But that's probably more than you need.
Dumb it down from there.

In a basement, especially if your parents are upstairs, you can live without the floating floor.

In addition to the double walls and hanging ceiling, you'll need an exterior, solid core door, with threshold and weatherstripping. Also insulate the walls and ceiling. If you want to save floorspace--and I have the identical room, so believe me, you do--use a staggered stud wall on a 2x6 plate, rather than an entire new set of 2x4 walls. You only give back a few decibels that way.

[Nateneal1966]

Contact your local insulation distributor for some 8lb mineral wool board. This is fairly inexpensive @ .35 per sf. it comes in different thickness'es. more the insulation the more the sound proofing.

the double wall thing for sure is the best bet. The mineral wool is thick like a thick felt and will rash you up pretty good putting it in but will kill a lot of sound. Put this up between the rafters and in the stud walls.

thick door with tight seal also.

Remember the ductwork. that is direct sound line to the rest of the house. Still haven't figured that one out.