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Old 11-21-2004
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what type of drumset

i am wanting to get a new drumset, the one i have i got in 7th grade(i am now in 12th) i am looking to spend $1000 to $2500, preferebly lower half but if i can get much better drums for like $2000 or more i am all for it. this set will be used for studio recording as well as live playing. i will be playing rock, and like jazz/blues on it. some bands stuff from the styles of coheed and cambria, jeff buckley, ben folds five, death cab for cuite, and incubus, along with many others. any suggestions, brand, type, size, anything are appreciated. I wont be buying this set for probably like 6 months, so i am going to be looking and studying a lot until then, to make sure i get a set i am very satisfied with.
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Old 11-22-2004
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Phattie drums are supposed to be really good. Theyre custom and acutally quite cheap. www.phattiedrums.com
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Old 11-22-2004
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Phattie drums are supposed to be really good. Theyre custom and acutally quite cheap. www.phattiedrums.com
Cheap??? Yeah right... $1300 for just a Bass Drum???
He would barely get a bass and snare for $2000.
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Old 11-22-2004
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i am thinking i will probably get maple, and probably something like 22" bass drum, 13" tom, 16" tom, and a 14" snare. i have been looking at pearl, tama, ludwig and sonor.

edit - now i am reading that birch is very good for recording, so i might get birch, hopefully someone will give me their opinion.

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Old 11-22-2004
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Cheap??? Yeah right... $1300 for just a Bass Drum???
He would barely get a bass and snare for $2000.
Thats the listed price, once you pick out all of your drums its discounted. For a 8x12, 13x15, and 14x24 its only like 1300
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Ah... I see... Hmm...
Might get more takers if they actually put the price they are gonna charge.
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Some of the best sounding drums I've ever heard
http://www.jalapenodrums.co.uk/
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Old 11-23-2004
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Get a Pearl Masters Studio (BRX) (6 ply birch shells)

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Old 11-24-2004
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Personally, one most inexpensive custom drum companies I've ever heard of is MapleWorks. They are basically Orange County but without the insane prices! You can price up and order your custom drums right off the website, or e-mail or call them. I once priced up a 7 Piece double bass kit with two 24X24 kicks and it was only 3000 Bucks. I've never actually bought anything from them yet, but I have played on the President of the companies kit, and it sounds and plays really well.

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Old 11-25-2004
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Well...

Of course this is HIGHLY opinionated, but you did ask. I've played lots of different kits and owned a few. I've owned a top end Pearl birch kit (BLX, would be the equivalent of a Masters kit today). I currently own a DW Collector's Series. I wouldn't trade them for anything.
I'll let you in on a little secret though. Really, you can get any good drum kit to sound good. Star Classics, Pearl Master Works, my DW's, whatever. My opinion is it comes down to the hardware you like (mounting in particular). You can't really compare say an Export kit to a Yamaha Maple Custom. They are made totally different and the wood composition isn't comparable. That's why I say if you take any company's equivalent kit, it's almost a wash.
But I do love my DW's.
Now I'll let you in on some more goodness...thin shells. If you want true kick ass resonant sound. Buy smaller, thinner drums. I play a 5 piece kit with tom sizes 10", 14", 15" and a 22"X20" kick. I do play an Eric Singer model Pearl snare. That thing is a MONSTER! I can get a tune to fouths and have plenty of room. I don't use any muffling on the toms or snare and use the Evans kick muffler in the kick drum. Wide open! Sounds KILLER!
Like I said. I love my DW's but everyone else is going to love their kit if they've spent some money on it. The choice really is yours. Go out and play a lot of kits and pay particular attention to the way the drums mount. If you can't position them the way you want, maybe look at a different brand.
Hope this helps some.

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Old 11-27-2004
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I've been playing for 32 years and have owned a lot of the great brands. I have been playing a Fibes kit for the past 4 years. Best sounding kit I have ever played. I use a Fibes SFT snare drum which was Buddy Rich's favorite snare drum. He used one the whole time he was endorsing Slingerland. You can find out more at: www.fibes.com
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For another $1500 you can get into a Pearl Masterworks shell pack.
Imagine a custom made Drum designed by you!You'll never go back!!!!
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Of course this is HIGHLY opinionated, but you did ask. I've played lots of different kits and owned a few. I've owned a top end Pearl birch kit (BLX, would be the equivalent of a Masters kit today). I currently own a DW Collector's Series. I wouldn't trade them for anything.
I'll let you in on a little secret though. Really, you can get any good drum kit to sound good. Star Classics, Pearl Master Works, my DW's, whatever. My opinion is it comes down to the hardware you like (mounting in particular). You can't really compare say an Export kit to a Yamaha Maple Custom. They are made totally different and the wood composition isn't comparable. That's why I say if you take any company's equivalent kit, it's almost a wash.
But I do love my DW's.
Now I'll let you in on some more goodness...thin shells. If you want true kick ass resonant sound. Buy smaller, thinner drums. I play a 5 piece kit with tom sizes 10", 14", 15" and a 22"X20" kick. I do play an Eric Singer model Pearl snare. That thing is a MONSTER! I can get a tune to fouths and have plenty of room. I don't use any muffling on the toms or snare and use the Evans kick muffler in the kick drum. Wide open! Sounds KILLER!
Like I said. I love my DW's but everyone else is going to love their kit if they've spent some money on it. The choice really is yours. Go out and play a lot of kits and pay particular attention to the way the drums mount. If you can't position them the way you want, maybe look at a different brand.
Hope this helps some.

-Sam
www.devilstomp.net

I'm basically a guitarist that plays pretty impressive drums. I was going to advise taking a listen to DW's but since DD beat me too it, all I can do is 2nd his opinion !!!!

BTW~ I own the Roland V-Session set and if you heard my CD's, you would not be able to tell they were electronic. I also have a friend that plays out with his V-Drums and I gotta tell you, he rocks on those things. Very versatile because you can change the kit per song or even during a song if you'd like. You can tweak them to have any sound you like from extreme electronic (hip hoppish) to standard kit sounding. Changing drums within a pre-set like drum size, tension, shell, head, etc. beside doing things like creating room size and mic positions to name a few. I love my V-Drums but if you are going with acoustic, then check out DW's.
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Well, if money wasn't an issue I would get Orange County. They sound very good but the best thing is the snares. I like a loud snare sound in my music so I really like the vented snares. I didn't have enough money to buy an OC snare so I drilled vents in my Yamaha and it worked amazingly. But anyway, I would also recommend a good Pearl set. I really love everything about Pearls except their snares (I like my Yamaha Maple Custom).
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Eames Drums in Mass. - custom made birch shells and inexpensive. http://www.eamesdrumshells.com/
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I brought this same topic up to a drummer friend, Pete Generous of generousgroove.com( great guy BTW) and he recommended I get the Yamaha Recording Customs with the Zildjian A Customs... FWIW, my 2c......

Oh, and Hi! First post, Great place, Good people.

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Cool Sorry But,,

Any drummer worth his/her salt along with a first year recording tech can not only tell the drums are electronic within the first measure, but can smell it!
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I'm basically a guitarist that plays pretty impressive drums. I was going to advise taking a listen to DW's but since DD beat me too it, all I can do is 2nd his opinion !!!!

BTW~ I own the Roland V-Session set and if you heard my CD's, you would not be able to tell they were electronic. I also have a friend that plays out with his V-Drums and I gotta tell you, he rocks on those things. Very versatile because you can change the kit per song or even during a song if you'd like. You can tweak them to have any sound you like from extreme electronic (hip hoppish) to standard kit sounding. Changing drums within a pre-set like drum size, tension, shell, head, etc. beside doing things like creating room size and mic positions to name a few. I love my V-Drums but if you are going with acoustic, then check out DW's.
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yamaha stage custom ($450)and a really good snare($450)
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Any drummer worth his/her salt along with a first year recording tech can not only tell the drums are electronic within the first measure, but can smell it!
i concur!!!!!!
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Old 12-14-2004
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You should buy Yamaha Stage Custom Nouveaus, or Oak Customs or soemthing in that range. Yamaha are the most reliable drums out there especially for that price. And Birch and Maple are pretty much the same... everyone says there's a difference, but there actually isnt. Maple or Birch are the way to go for good recordings....and all these "CUSTOM" companies all use the same shells...like Pork Pie...Orange County...and even when DW started out they all use KELLER SHELLS. All the same stuff...and those "huge 2 inch airvents" for OC's drums...yeah they maket them as "louder" and everything...but its all in control and how and where u hit the drums and also what the drum is made of...and the HEADS them selves. A metal snare usually cuts through better than most wood snares. Now cymbols....thats another story
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Old 12-20-2004
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Try Pacific

A good set of drums for a really good price is the Pacific series, which is made by DW. I presently own a CX and LX series and they both are awsome. The CX i use for gigs because of the wraps. These drums are all maple and now come with the same mounting system as DW. I talked to many people before purchasing and the general statement was that these are DW just made in Mexico. You can get a new set of LX which have a laquer finish for about 1100 or cheaper, and the CX are ever cheaper at about 900. Im pretty sure that this price also includes hardware which is actually very nice. However i do not use there hardware so I can't speak on its durability.
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