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Old 11-03-2004
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Anyone fancy a quicky? (question i mean)

Does tuning get rid of snare ringing and if so, please explain briefly.
What about tape or something like that?

Any quick comments would be appreciated greatley.

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A little cotton ball and duct tape eliminates ring quit nicely, and tightens up the snare sound.
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Cheers, ive heard of using cotton balls actually INSIDE of toms, but wasnt sure about the snare drum.
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Tuning does get rid of the ringing on most snares. Some really crappy ones will ring no matter what. There are also snares that are designed to ring, tuning won't help these either.
The cotton ball in the tom thing is unnecessary. Tuning will solve that unless there is something wrong with the drum, head, or both.

The biggest mistake I see, is people tuning the drums higher than they were meant to be tuned. If you knock on the shell, you will hear the note that the drum should be tuned to.
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A few years ago I was playing with a guy who had a snare that was ringing like a telephone. I found these cool plastic rings that you can just drop onto the snare the kill the ringing. They come in various sizes for different levels of dampening.

I am not sure if this is what you are looking for but you can try these for a snappy snare sound. Anyway, they are simple and they are easy to remove--there's no messy glue left on the drum head.

http://www.noblecooley.com/acc_zerosn.html
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I don't like the sound those rings give to snares. It's TOO effective, if you know what I mean. I prefer to strategically place cotton/duct tape at key locations of the head--and as little as possible.

Granted tuning can solve this, but sometimes you nail the sound they want and don't want to mess with retuning it when you have the sound... so you get the tape/cotton out.

Not a perfect situation, but everybody I record is a clockwatcher. They don't have unlimited budgets, nor do I have unlimited time to give away for free.
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Try moongel, works great.
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If you have given up on tuning, you could try the towel trick.
cut the towel up into squares. (2 inches x 2 inches approx.) Tape 1 side of it to the head so it makes a flap. When you hit the drum, the towel flips up momentarily to let some ring through. As it settles back down it dampens the head.
Bigger drums need a bigger piece of towel, it takes a little fiddling until you get it right the first time. Then it is easy. If the towel flips up and doesn't come back, the flapping part is too long.
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i've seen some pro studio drummers just lay a single sheet of paper over the snair. i've done it a couple times and it proves to be a quick fix, but nothing will be better than a well tuned set. i've heard of engineers taking all day to tune the set even before they even think about setting up mics. but those are huge budget records. i say try to tuning, and if that fails whip out some paper.
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a way to cheat with snare sounds if you cant get ir right doing
duct tape etc /tuning tricks is to trigger a very high quality snare sample
in a sampler. same for kik. it really saves a lot of hassles when recording a group live in the studio. just put a couple of nice condensers or crown pzm's above the kit...just 2 mics and trigger the kik and snare samples. cant be beat imho. its simple and effective. if you cant get good drum tracks using this approach get better sounding cymbals and toms. this approach also never lies. it shows up quickly a poor sounding drum set.
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Don't know if this is already suggested (moon gel?), but my drummer used these blue gel sticky pads and they worked great, on all drums not just the snare. You can control the amount of dampening by moving the pad to different parts of the head.
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Don't know if this is already suggested (moon gel?), but my drummer used these blue gel sticky pads and they worked great, on all drums not just the snare. You can control the amount of dampening by moving the pad to different parts of the head.
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What kind of snare is it? What is it made out of? What's ringing, the snare or maybe causing some sort of resonance in the toms? Snare drums are really touchy. Heads, head tension both top and bottom and the tension on the snares all have to work together.

Chrome snares are going to ring and to my ears, are not very pleasing to the ear anyhow. The drummer in my band has a maple snare that is pretty boingy at times but he's learned how to tame that.

At the bottom of this article is a section on tuning drums. Maybe it'll help.

http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_capt...kit/index.html
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