recording mesa dual rectifier

[kingdabeaki]

Anyone have any tips on the bass/treble/gain/presence/volume settings to record a tubed mesa dual rectifier mic'd mesa 4 12 cabinet. The band's sound is pop punk-ish with a bit of metal influence. ANY suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Sonixx]

More info is needed on the amp model (# channels)... I have a three channel DR and for heavy I generally use channel two Vintage or Modern with Drop D or Drop DFlat. I really like channel 1 Clean with the Gain and Presence full up.

since a DR can cover a lot... any recommendations would be totally opinion based... better determined by the song... and recording settings usually different somewhat than for live... I understand you're looking for starting points though. maybe start with some of the user's manual settings. the Smoldering Solo setting is Okay.

lately I have settled on three mics for my amp cabinet (V30s): 57, e609S and a MD421 mixed based on situation.

-keith-

[darknailblue]

Well, some good overrall EQing tips is to be as gentle as possible with them.
I run my EQ just about flat.
Bass 5
Mid 5 (DON'T scoop it!!!!!)
Treble 6
Presence 4
Gain 5
This is on a recto. With an ubershall 4x12. But I also play in a prog rock band. So my EQing tastes will be different than yours. But even still I get a well balanced sound that sits perfectly in the mix. Know your instruments role in the mix. Thats key. When you paly alone thats one thing. When I practice I use a J-Station and use a recto amp model, and ALLLL the mids are scooped out. It sounds awesome, but when you play in a band that scooped guitar EQ will get lost in the mix and end up fighting with the drums and bass. My other guitarist has his EQ 100% flat except he puts his gain on 6-7. My bass player actually uses the subtractive EQ approach and he gets awesome tone. If in question though, just run it flat.

~darknailblue

[-=¤willhaven¤=-]

yeah. i used to do the "metal" thing and turn the midrange down. that was mostly when i had a marshall that was brittle and nasal in comparison to the boogie.

the boogie has more of a low full midrange that sounds GOOD. i turn mine up to about 4-6 depending on the situation, and i play heavy rock music.

you shouldnt have to max anything out. the only thing i max out on my amp is the gain on the distortion channel... thats it. everything else resides between 4 and 7

i had people ask me how i got my distortion tone in my hometown. its a two part formula. boogie, esp/parker. thats it.

when i recorded i used a SM57 up close on the speaker, and i used a CAD condenser mic a couple of feet back and i blended the two.

i did one track on the left side and panned one mic hard left and the other i panned slightly rightward... and for the right side i did the opposite. panned one hard right and the other slightly leftward. it makes your guitar sound really dimensional when you do that... at least in my experience

[HangDawg]

Orange channel to modern variable high gain
Diode for rectifier
bold/spongy set to spongy so you can crank it a little more
Presence on 12 o'clock
Bass 7-8 o'clock
Mid 12 o'clock
Treb 9 o'clock
Gain can be adjusted between 11-1:30 o'clock


I have a tune in the mp3 clinic with this setting. It's called the truth. Might be on page 2 by now. Guitars were PRS with md421 on grille and a custom shop ESP with EMG81 with sm57 on grille.

[Wireneck]

I find that Mesa usually has some descent settings in their manuals. I have a Nomad 45 short head and after tweaking for a little while and then looking through the manual, I realized that many of the sounds I dialed in were already suggestions in the manual. Just a thought...........

[kingdabeaki]

thanks a lot for the great suggestions!