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Are bouncing and Compression in MR8 all digital?

I don"t know if this question has been asked before.
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I know that recording is digital ( analog to digital ) but is bouncing all digital?
when you are mixing live and bouncing to, lets say to tracks 7-8, is this all done in the digital realm?
Is Compression( powerful, natural and bright ) also digital when bouncing?
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In a way, yes, it's digital. When you bounce down to tracks 7/8 or 5/6, you are actually recording the tracks 1-4 (or 1-6) onto the stereo tracks. They are automatically panned hard left and right respectively. The manual states that when you bounce tracks that you should have the levels already set for your effects, because it copies them to the new tracks, however, I've found that when you download them to pc, the tracks are dry. The only effects that I've seen on the mr8 are distortion in the guitar mode, and different levels of reverb. I am unaware of compression. Are there any experts that can help me with this?
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I don"t know if this question has been asked before.
Here it goes:
I know that recording is digital ( analog to digital ) but is bouncing all digital?
when you are mixing live and bouncing to, lets say to tracks 7-8, is this all done in the digital realm?
Is Compression( powerful, natural and bright ) also digital when bouncing?
The power, natural, bright settings you are talking about are in the mastering mode, and they are digital, but only work when you are mixing down the tracks to the analog out (stereo out above the headphone inputs). I don't like them because they cause clipping when you mix down to another medium.
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To make myself more clear...

What I was asking is if there was analog mixing when you bounce tracks.

or when you use the compression (mastering effects ).
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What I was asking is if there was analog mixing when you bounce tracks.

or when you use the compression (mastering effects ).
The machine is totally digital. The only analog part is the stereo outs. If you are bouncing tracks, it's all digital.
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The machine is totally digital. The only analog part is the stereo outs. If you are bouncing tracks, it's all digital.
Can I say then that once I record some tracks I can make infinite bouncings
( theoretically ) without any audio quality loss ?
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Can I say then that once I record some tracks I can make infinite bouncings
( theoretically ) without any audio quality loss ?
You can bounce tracks 1-6 to 7/8 and then bounce 1-4 to tracks 5/6. Then record 4 more tracks, giving you a total of 14 tracks, and I've seen that it can get a little muddy if you are not really careful with your levels when you bounce the tracks. A better idea is to download the tracks to your pc individually and master them there. You can do it all on the mr8, but it takes lots of practice to do it and not get it muddy.
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[QUOTE=Rokket]You can bounce tracks 1-6 to 7/8 and then bounce 1-4 to tracks 5/6. Then record 4 more tracks, giving you a total of 14 tracks, /QUOTE]

What I didn't mention is that once you bounce to tracks 7/8 or 5/6, you can't bounce anything else to them, or you will lose what you already put there. Bouncing to these tracks a second time erases what you put on there, just like it would with an analog recorder. That's why the pc is a better option for multiple tracks, especially more than the 14 the mr8 will support. Also be weary of the size of the flash card in your unit. I've had problems with bouncing down tracks and running out of memory before I upgrade to a 512 card, because it is recording the tracks as you bounce, and uses memory. You can get memory back by deleting the old tracks once you bet them bounced, and going in and deleting the unused tracks (it records two wave files for every track you record, to enable the undo/redo feature), but it won't help you if you don't have enough room to complete recording the bounce. I hope I have answered your questions.
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it is a digital recorder, all functions are digital,,, the mastering effects suck do not bother with them, the most effective way to use the mr8 is to move tracks to the pc, mix and add effects there, then make a reference track put back on the mr8 and record more tracks as need,

the effects are horrable on the mr8, and with no eq, bouncing down will always be muddy and sound bad
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