I'm FIRST!

[Jon X]

Very cool new forum. We coulda used something like this back when we first put together the HR.com band idea. It took us forever to pick a cover tune. Maybe future "band" songs, if any, can come from here. Speaking of that, the next tune should be a blues number using those lyrics that Dragon came up with. Sorta in the "Hey, Joe" mold. Then we could do another one titled "Am I too good for this world?"

BTW, Slack... good one.

[Slackmaster2K]

I'm trying to write a song...but am having a hard time. Help me write a song. Something good please, none of that crappy stuff.

[Stiggy Darzust]

I'd like to help you with writing a song, but can you try to be more specific? I mean: what sort of music are you into? what sort of instrument do you play? etc.

[Slackmaster2K]

It was just a joke man

[Dragon]

Wow, what a great first line!

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It was just a joke man
I didn't mean to kill you
You just happened to walk out there
When I was wasting my ex-wife

It was just a joke man
I didn't really mean it
If that freak Alanis was there
She woulda said it was ironic

[Stiggy Darzust]

Am i too good for this world?

But seriously, it isn't a bad idea; writing a song with someone who's on the other side of the world!
Just think of the possibilities!

[tdukex]

Slack: I are a songwriter, is you?
I write pomes, too. Maybe we can corraborate on a song.

[Qasper]

I kood Corect. Im a grate speler y'no!

[istyle]

hahaha
finally what the world really needs
dragon you must be
genius

[tutton]

Oh Dragon you crack me up hehehe

Tony

[This message has been edited by tutton (edited 06-07-2000).]

[S8-N]

I had to be the one to say this... But... If you need this forum, maybe musicianship isnt your calling.
People dont write songs...
Songs write themselves and choose a medium... If you are born a medium then you are one... If not, then no amount of practice or knowledge will make you one...
I think that it is no coincidence that many of our best songwriters are mediocre musicians...
If you are channeling a song... you can beat a stick on the sidewalk and sing out of key like Bob Dylan.. and it will be beautiful.
If you dont channel... You can practice and study untill Malmsteen is afraid of you, yet you will never write a good song.

True

S8-N

[tutton]

True

[Tucci]

I agree with you to some extent S8-N. Being a great musician doesn't have much to do with being a great songwriter - your Bob Dylan example was excellent.

But:

When the inspiration does hit us it usually doesn't come all in a nice neat package ready to be performed. We usually need to do some cutting, pasting, and touch-up to make it a great song. That is where a forum like this can help. Songwriting is not 100% inspiration - there is a measure of craft involved too. Also, who's to say that we won't be inspired by something in this forum? And...this could be a good forum just to talk about and appreciate great songs and songwriters.

Tucci

[tdukex]

S8-N: I are a medium, is you?

Just kidding.

Seriously, though, songwriting is more than being a conduit to the muse--or inspiration captured in tangible form. In all art there is craft--craft that can be learned. Not all the talent in the world will make you a good (or successful) song writer if you don't understand (either consciously or subconsciously) the craft of songwriting.

On the otherhand, as you have so aptly stated, no amount of studying or practicing the craft of songwriting (or anything else) will make a mediocre talent great.

Know your strengths, and know your weaknesses.

Exploit your strengths.

[S8-N]

I do know my strengths...
I will now slap you with my huge, slippery, uncircumcised penis.

[Track Rat]

A one-a and a two-a.....

[tdukex]

I said exploit, not expose you semen slinging sodomite.

[phillybean]

excellent alliteration "semen slinging sodomite"

S8-N I hope you were joking and not seriously pissed off, that would be immature.

[S8-N]

<FART>

[Helmut]

This probably interests no one, but I always wanted to start a project band called "Septic Penises"

[darxide]

artistry/creativity is not something that can be studied, practiced, or learned..

could someone enlighten me on what 'Art School' is about?

"i'm learning to appreciate beauty.. and the finer things in life.."

learning? i don't think so..


'developing a Sense'; very imaginable--

how we 'develop a Sense'; inconceivable--

[tdukex]

( )) <PROOOT>

[James HE]

Well darxide, i wonder myself "what art school is about" but more like these days "Why the hell did I spend $20,000++ to get this Freakin BFA degree!!!!!" (seriously though why????) If you really are curious, then go. (to a good school) Your first glimpse to the answer to that question will be when one of your classmates runs out of the classroom crying after a "bad" critique. Oh man I miss those days...

So artisty is in question somewhat here and I agreee whole heartedly with S8-N about either being born as a medium or not. But... The point is to find it!!! everybody has it, really, we are all born with it, it's just a matter of never losing it (completely)

POOT!

-jhe

[eMTPy]

Yeah, I like to think we all have that medium to 'channel' songs. Some people seem to be more intune with that than others.

I ran into a lyricist last winter. He gave me free reign over his songs. Said have at it. Gave me his only copies. Something came from that far beyond my control. Some very meaningful pieces.

However, I can't always play it with that meaning. And that's alright. It's when i play it for someone, and they are there to meet me on the level the song takes me. That's what it is all about. Or when i play it for myself. And reach some understanding.

So i guess to relate back, i am more intune at some times than at others. Ebb and flow. Maybe tommorrow I wont be a songwriter. But this morning I was. I sacrifice my desire to be there always. Give that over to the power beyond me, and watch the magnificence.

[Garry Sharp]

Er, there must have been some good drugs around 4 years ago. That was hilarious.

We're just looking for a new band name, semen slinging sodomite opens up all sorts of new avenues ....