How do i know if i make R&B???

[Crazy]

hi, i want to make r&b music.
i got a few beats and a few songs.. but how can i make it sound like r&b??
cuz i listen to r&b songs, but every song is with a different beat.

is there some websites where i can learn about r&b and making r&b(beats)?
writing r&b? cuz im hopeless right now


i hope someone could help me...

Bye, Crazy!

[dicblack]

What gear are you using?

[Crazy]

i got reason, Magix music studio. (I Could buy other)
keyboard


but how do i know if i make R&B?? cuz im new in making music..

[dicblack]

waddup son,
Try this 1st;
1) How good are you at using the gear that you have?
2) If you only get one more piece of gear, get a keyboard controller (if you havent already) because it's just easier to lay down chords with it.
Then try this "recipe"
Listen to the radio, watch some videos, pickup some music chart magazines.
Pick out some the songs that are the easiest for you to get into.
Start trying to emulate "copy"and see how it sounds.
After doing this for a while it shouild be a little easier to get the hang of it.
It also has a lot to do with you and how well you are at "getting into the groove" of it
A lot of todays R&B stuff is between 85-105 bpm (tempo) to give you a start.
Give this a try and let me know how you make out.

[Crazy]

thank you..

[dicblack]

What version of the software are you using?
I have reason 2.5 but not magix.
What "VST" plugins do you have and which ones do you want?
Maybe we can hook eachother up
peace

[homershines]

In addition to the good info that you've already gotten here, I would add that when you are making R&B, you are not making beats any longer. You are constructiung songs. So, you will need to know a lot more about music and song structure than if you were just making Hiphop beats.

Also, I would suggest, listening to lots of music. And not just the current stuff on the radio. There is almost 50 years of "Rhythm & Blues" music in the world.
That's where you need to live. R Kelly has been doing his home work. That's why he keeps flipping on these cats. Now he's raiding Marvin Gaye's ideas. A few years ago, it was Sam Cooke and Curtis Mayfield's ideas. There's a whole lot to learn. Beat you that the success of the Ray Charles movie will put some of Ray's ideas back on the scene. And he was PHUNKY!

Peace.

[toastyghost]

Generally speaking, an R&B song sounds like a slow rap song with singing instead of flowing vocals.

[Raydio]

Originally Posted by toastyghost

Generally speaking, an R&B song sounds like a slow rap song with singing instead of flowing vocals.

Big time! I had to learn that the hard way. People fail to realize what changing the tempo of a song and removing small elements will do. One thing that R&B utilizes that few new rap hits dont is the use of chords and sweeping sounds (whooses, pads, etc.). My advice would be not to even try to venture off into traditional R&B. R&B is changing so much that there is even a new genre called "crunk & b"; which is R&B singing on crunk beats (example: Ciara - Goodies, Oobie - Dirty Dancin'). Take what you know and implement it into something fresh..... thats the key to being successful yo! Good luck!

[two5tolife]

I disagree, Ciara and Oobie shouldn't even be considered R&B, atleast goodies and dirty dancin, but thats another conversation.

R&B TYPICALLY doesn't have a lot of bass to the kick, very simple drum lines...

One bass hit followed by one snare (but you can add variations to this)

R&B is like jazz and hip hop's love child, mix the 2, have fun, don't try so hard to stick to one genre though, just make the music the way you see fit.

[Raydio]

Originally Posted by two5tolife

I disagree, Ciara and Oobie shouldn't even be considered R&B, atleast goodies and dirty dancin, but thats another conversation.

R&B TYPICALLY doesn't have a lot of bass to the kick, very simple drum lines...

One bass hit followed by one snare (but you can add variations to this)

R&B is like jazz and hip hop's love child, mix the 2, have fun, don't try so hard to stick to one genre though, just make the music the way you see fit.

It seems to me that you are being very traditional. But even in thousands of traditional R&B songs, the bassline carries the song and gives it definition and usually becomes a glue with the chords and such. R. Kelly, Ginuwine, Musiq, Jill Scott, etc. often incorporate variation to their songs to make them modern. When their tracks become uptempo with heavier bass and more effects does this strip away an R&B title?

I predict that songs such as Goodies will become the future of R&B because the same ole slow tempo, chord progression based, "oooo sexy lady" thing is getting played out and these twist on the genre are becoming more popular. Wake up and smell the crunk juice.

[two5tolife]

Originally Posted by Raydio

It seems to me that you are being very traditional. But even in thousands of traditional R&B songs, the bassline carries the song and gives it definition and usually becomes a glue with the chords and such. R. Kelly, Ginuwine, Musiq, Jill Scott, etc. often incorporate variation to their songs to make them modern. When their tracks become uptempo with heavier bass and more effects does this strip away an R&B title?

I predict that songs such as Goodies will become the future of R&B because the same ole slow tempo, chord progression based, "oooo sexy lady" thing is getting played out and these twist on the genre are becoming more popular. Wake up and smell the crunk juice.

Eh, crunk is to rap as hair metal is to rock... it is gonna be something we all will regret even participating in...

Basslines don't carry R&b tracks, harmonies do, also, somethin you wanna consider, live drums are gettin to be a big thing in R&b, the Roots, MUSIQ SOULCHILD (WHERE THE HELL DO YOU GET BASS IN HIM OR JILL SCOTT?!?! Our definition of "bass" must be a bit different), D'Angelo, etc. Even if you just have one or 2 drum lines and loop them in a beat, it is still hot.

I see growth in R&b, BUT Ciara, Oobie, uhhhh now Erikah Badu in a way (just as examples) are steps forward, merely pit stops along the way...

[bigwillz24]

Listen to OLD R&B records... THEN pick up a chord book and see if you can figure out what chords are being played. Most modern R&B music uses those same chords that have been used in the OLD records. Why? Because most of it is samples from those old records "nowadays"

[Trumpspade]

Let's not be quick to say what we will or will not regret participating in. They said the same thing about hiphop, like it was like some deadly expirement. And now Look! ! !
Different forms of rap has surfaced as a result of hiphop. I say do it all, and keep it original> I say this too......I would rather hear Crunk (and I'm from up north where it isn't as ill as down South) than to hear people who just sample all the time and borrow from past times. There is so many sides and features to music, I tend to lean more to creativity.
I don't even no why I'm writing all of this, I think I went waaaaay off the subject. My Bad!~

[Raydio]

Originally Posted by Trumpspade

Let's not be quick to say what we will or will not regret participating in. They said the same thing about hiphop, like it was like some deadly expirement. And now Look! ! !
Different forms of rap has surfaced as a result of hiphop. I say do it all, and keep it original> I say this too......I would rather hear Crunk (and I'm from up north where it isn't as ill as down South) than to hear people who just sample all the time and borrow from past times. There is so many sides and features to music, I tend to lean more to creativity.
I don't even no why I'm writing all of this, I think I went waaaaay off the subject. My Bad!~

Preach! Good post, it made lots of sense (at least to me it did). Cheers!

[two5tolife]

I get you,

"To each man himself be true" I guess

Choose what genre you like, just make sure you actually enjoy what youre doing and you aren't just writing it cause its what the public likes.