mr-8 question

[eraos]

If I recorded in Extended mode, to save minutes, then on the computer convert it into a 44.1k wav file, will that have the same quality as recording it in Normal mode to begin with?

[notbradsohner]

no..........recording in extended mode on the mr-8 doesnt capture as good of sound. you cant regain that back on the computer

[dave in toledo]

normal mode is 16 bit, if you did this you would have to use a wav editor and interpolate the file up to 16 bit, very bad.....only thing extended is good for is putting on cassette tape....

[jreel1]

Originally Posted by dave in toledo

normal mode is 16 bit, if you did this you would have to use a wav editor and interpolate the file up to 16 bit, very bad.....only thing extended is good for is putting on cassette tape....

why is it very bad?

[dave in toledo]

when you interpolate a file you are leting the computer fill in the gapsl that arent there due to low resolution, the computer isnt very creative, the sound quality is severly decreased....

[dave in toledo]

if you are moving tracks to the computer, then space inst an issue anyway, do as many tracks as you can, mix all down on the pc as a mono 16 bit wav file, for reference only , (dont mix down and loose all your seperate tracks)

put new mixdown back to mr8 as a go by with wav manager, add new tracks and repeat, i like n track i get up to 88 tracks, vst and direct x plug in effects, and great eq...

[cellardweller]

Originally Posted by dave in toledo

if you are moving tracks to the computer, then space isn't an issue anyway, do as many tracks as you can, mix all down on the pc as a mono 16 bit wav file, for reference only , (dont mix down and loose all your seperate tracks)

put new mixdown back to mr8 as a go by with wav manager, add new tracks and repeat, i like n track i get up to 88 tracks, vst and direct x plug in effects, and great eq...

Geesh, I'd actually never even thought of it like that! I always mixed a reference track on the MR8 after bouncing to the PC, but yea that makes much more sense.

Sometimes Dave astounds me with the obvious things I continually overlook...

Gee, Thanx Dave

[dave in toledo]

for the kind works.....

[Rokket]

I will leave bare bones tracks bounced down to track 7/8, as a refrence point when I go over the limit of what the mr8 will accept (14 tracks???), and just move them to my computer as I finish them. Everything is mixed and polished in the pc. I just started using this technique and it's working beautifully. I have more control over the finished product, AND I can pick and chose which tracks work and which ones don't. Can't remove a single track from the mr-8 if you already mixed it down, even with the undo/redo feature.

[deadhippy]

Agreed, undo will not work at the point when a track is mixed down on the MR8, but I copy the unmixed tracks to PC, then mix down the 1-6 to 7/8 for a reference track. Repeat as necessary...

[dave in toledo]

this is really the same, thing, only i am getting an eq'ed, with good effects, and a good mix, of the tracks, and using the mixed down mono file, using less of the memory card leaving more memory for recording, i find it helpful to have the reference track sounding as good as possible before adding the new tracks, which i get using the computer first, compression and all...helps me with the performance of the next tracks....just my way..

[cellardweller]

Dave,

That brings to mind a question... As you know, I record on the MR8 and then hand it over to N tracks. I've only recently started messing with compression to any great extent. How can you tell if you are pushing an already recorded track into clipping on Ntrack? Is that when the mixer knob flashes red? If so, is this the only time that digital distortion and general crappiness is introduced? How do you avoid it peaking on the MR8 after compressing the heck out of it in Ntrack???

[dave in toledo]

yes the main knob blinks red, but there is also a window you can open that has a great bar readout, much easier to see and control.....just dont let it get past the orange on the levels bar

as far as the compression, it is never peaking when sent back to the mr8, i do use it sparingly, little on bass or vocals, where ever the performer has a varience in the volume on there performance... and never on the whole mix until mastering, where i use the classic compressor, then a pass with the classic limiter really brings it up to almost commercial levels....

[dave in toledo]

Originally Posted by Rokket

I will leave bare bones tracks bounced down to track 7/8, as a refrence point when I go over the limit of what the mr8 will accept (14 tracks???), and just move them to my computer as I finish them. Everything is mixed and polished in the pc. I just started using this technique and it's working beautifully. I have more control over the finished product, AND I can pick and chose which tracks work and which ones don't. Can't remove a single track from the mr-8 if you already mixed it down, even with the undo/redo feature.

if you realy need to, use a card reader instead of the usb, and dont use the wav manager, and just open the drive that shows on your pc, the files will be there, thats the only time to not use the wav manager, to rescue lost takes....

but if you punch in or skip around on the track while recording the parts will not line up, has to be a complete track from beginning to end...

just incase you ever need to do it...