recording in closet

[revamp]

is recording with a mic'ed guitar amp in the closet a good idea? the closet is not big at all, but maybe this will have positive outcome on the sound. what do you think?

[Ronan]

You will tell us once you try it, but it should work out well, especially if you are going for a tight rock sound. You may want to try putting the amp on a big flat piece of wood or a chair to see how the sound changes.

[CGibson]

Originally Posted by revamp

is recording with a mic'ed guitar amp in the closet a good idea? the closet is not big at all, but maybe this will have positive outcome on the sound. what do you think?

Are you saying you want to come out of the closet???

HA! Couldn't help it, I had too.

Sure I think you'll get some great results.
You might also try padding the walls around it.
And try multiple mic's if you have the option.

C

[revamp]

hmm i am considering the multiple mic idea. i own a sennheiser E609 and Studio Projects B1. my amp is a Line 6 Spider II 112 and an ART TUBE MP for preamp. where do you think would be a good placement for the two microphones? below is a link of a song i recorded with amp in the closet, i placed the E609 about 1 inch apart from the grill facing down towards the edge of the cone.

the song is called "the beating":

http://www.audiostreet.net/artists/0...vitalsign.html

this is okay i guess, but i wonder if it still sounds a little like i recorded this direct, i want to get a "wider" sound, but i guess i cant do that with the preamp i have.

[acorec]

Originally Posted by revamp

is recording with a mic'ed guitar amp in the closet a good idea? the closet is not big at all, but maybe this will have positive outcome on the sound. what do you think?

Yes, provided you have great ventalation. The amp cannot be in a closed closet with too much heat.


However, I fear what will happen when you *come out of the closet*

Then there might be some issues not related to recording.

[gumplunger]

I've got my 4x12 Marshall cab in the closet for miking. It works quite well. Ran an Ampeg VL502 through it miked up with a 57 and a 421. Very punchy, mean, distorted rock sound.

[Mutant_Ape]

I think that worked really well!

[GABritton]

Revamp....Suggestion for putting a mic on a cabinet...

Use your 609 close miced starting on the outside edge of the speaker pointing towards the center of the cone.

I'd use the B1 set as far back in your closet as you can straight head. It'll catch a fuller sound than the 609 right out of your speaker.

Blend the two together at the board. Experiment a little and don't be afraid to try something new...

[revamp]

awesome. i'll give that a try.

[noiseportrait]

Okay, I could be wrong, but I think I know wha you are trying to achieve. Here's how most bands get that big wide guitar sound on the rhythm parts:

Record your rhythm parts to a track, now use a different mic, and possibly even a different guitar or amp, and record the exact same rhythm parts over again onto another track. It is very important that you play the parts over again and not just cut and paste. Now pan one of the tracks way over to the left and pan the other track way over to the right. See if that helps.

In order for it not to get too muddy when you are doubling tracks like this you may have to turn down your gain quite a bit. I also noticed that you didn't have any bass guitar recorded on the track you posted. Bass guitar backing the rhythm tracks is very important for a big, full rock sound. If you took the bass guitar parts out of a lot of your favorite cds, I'd bet that the actual bare guitar sound would surprise you. Guitar tracks that sit well in the mix are often much more mid-rangy and have less gain than you would expect. Hope this helps you out. Good luck!

[revamp]

noiseportrait.. i will try this out.. but i thought my problem was a mic/preamp issue..

[noiseportrait]

The problem is hardly ever a mic/preamp issue...

Though if you feel the need to upgrade, I'd ditch the ART. The 609 and b1 are more than adequate for getting great guitar sounds.

[DJL]

Originally Posted by revamp

is recording with a mic'ed guitar amp in the closet a good idea? the closet is not big at all, but maybe this will have positive outcome on the sound. what do you think?

Give it a try... I've even thrown packing blankets over the top of a miked-up amp to get the sound needed before.

[TripleM]

Originally Posted by revamp

i own a sennheiser E609 and Studio Projects B1. my amp is a Line 6 Spider II 112 and an ART TUBE MP for preamp. where do you think would be a good placement for the two microphones?

Do you just have the one preamp, or do you have a mixer with preamps as well?

If you do, I might suggest putting the E609 close to the grille (maybe even less than an inch), and just off the center of the cone. Maybe even point it straight - that will give you a little brighter tone.

Take the B1 and put it the same distance away from the grille, straight on, but further away from the center of the cone.

Honestly I haven't used either of these mics, but I'm betting that with this arrnagement, you'll get some good high-midrange detail from the 609, and some nice rich lower end from the B1.

Might be worth a try anyway.

[revamp]

i just have the one preamp.. i will try noiseportrait's suggestion before anything else, and i will consider upgrading and try micing with 2 microphones. but i will try to avoid spending anymore money if possible. i appreciate all of your suggestions very much. i might post results soon. if anyone has anymore great ideas to share, then dont hesitate to do so.