Help me save my session

[Jason Molinari]

finally dusting off my CEP after 1.5 years of sitting on my desktop...

hence newbie question (s)(more to come...)

can anybody help me suss out 'saving' a multitrack session. tried various methods only to lose everything. thankfully just demos at this point. able to save under a title but i open it up and i then have to "open(?)" every track, find waveforms...???..old test voices replacing what i just saved [read:'track 1(4)']....and...it's just very confussing and the manual doesn't help me out too much. (the answer is probably there, i just don't understand it).

don't really understand why i can't just save as, name it and have everything show up where i left it (gutiar-track one, vox-track two, etc...) can anyone explain or spell out a 1,2,3 tutorial for me...

what are the advantages/uses of so many saving options?

haven't even touched the edit view yet....uggh...

thanks in advance for any help.

jason

[gasal69]

If I was you I'd reinstalled CEP.
There should be no difficulties with session saving.
It's ordinary "windows way". No tricks!

don't really understand why i can't just save as, name it and have everything show up where i left it (gutiar-track one, vox-track two, etc...)

You can! Just like that!
(When you are in session window , not in edit window)
If that doesn't work something is wrong with your CEP.

[BIGD72]

where are you importing your tracks from? Your hard drive or a CD? Try saving with the "save copy of associated files" box checked and hopefully all the files will be there when you pull up your session

[Jason Molinari]

thank you thus far...

BIG: i'm importing the tracks from my hard drive. (i'm assuming importing means where they're coming from...the computer vs. outside source)

anyway, i did see that 'save associated files box' and i don't remember it working but things unraveled quickly last night so i'll give it another shot.

question: does each track become a file that has to be individually named and then put back into a new/blank session??? or does the entire session(song) become the file?

i'll keep plugging away and asking.

thank again.

jason

[Change of POETS]

The session file does not save the song, it simply saves the information about the files saved in the session. It will prompt you to save all the individual sound files included in the session.

The session file itself, remembers the time stamp and track location of each file, and places it appropriately within the session when re-opened.

[Jason Molinari]

Ok...

Had to give it a shot before work.

Stuff on track one and two
'Saved session as'; named it
Checked 'copy of associated files' box (not sure what that does)
Then had to save each track as a waveform...naming each track

It worked.

BUT this waveform saving is what is confusing. What is the difference between .ses and .wav? so if i had a full session with 18 tracks i'd have to save 'em all in this fashion? (i.e.Name the session (song title) and idividually name/save each track for that session)

thanks.

jason.

[BIGD72]

Originally Posted by Jason Molinari

Ok...

Had to give it a shot before work.

Stuff on track one and two
'Saved session as'; named it
Checked 'copy of associated files' box (not sure what that does)
Then had to save each track as a waveform...naming each track

It worked.

BUT this waveform saving is what is confusing. What is the difference between .ses and .wav? so if i had a full session with 18 tracks i'd have to save 'em all in this fashion? (i.e.Name the session (song title) and idividually name/save each track for that session)

thanks.

jason.

No. If your computer is working correctly, the session file should pull up all the files related to the session. Problems arise when the computer can't "find" the files. Saving copies with the session files should stop this from happening. I have had that problem in the past. I've also had cool edit turn 10 different drum tracks into all the same track. Don't trust cool edit with your files, make back ups!! Burn them to Cd's, or YOU will get burned!!

a .ses file is the session information.......eq's volumes, and placement of files. opening the session file also triggers the opening of all the audio files, but the audio files are not "within" the session files per se. Make sense?

[lpdeluxe]

When you are ready to save, make a new folder [assuming it's part of a new project] on your audio drive and name it ("Supreme Motown Awesome Music", for example, or whatever is appropriate to the project), then save each session as an .ses file, which is CEP's own form of .wav file management. As BIGD72 told you, this saves all the data associated with the song. Then save each .wav file (you'll be prompted to do so when you exit CEP or start a new session). There is a scribble strip where you can name each track on the left side of the CEP window. The default is "Track 1", "Track 2" and so on. Use this to enter the track name("vocal", "l guitar" or whatever: you don't need to repeat the song name because CEP will assign it as part of the track name when you save) and finally, save each track as a "PCM .wav". There are a zillion options but this is the full uncompressed deal, so stick with it. As with many other features, the save function will use this format until you tell to save in a different format, at which point it will start using THAT format each time. You'll end up with lots of items in your folder; don't worry about that. Note that the ".pk" files you see speed up loading your songs into the Multitrack View.
Hope this helps.