how do you think the effects/etc, in adobe compare to others?

[mixmkr]

especially the hard limiting VS the L1 or L2 waves and the pitch correction VS Antares.

Personally, I think AA1.5 is a killer program and really suits my needs.

[dobro]

Ha! Before I got here, I just asked one of your questions over on that other board...

[ozpeter]

"and really suits my needs" - exactly. You've got to think in terms of the job you are trying to do and the money you've got to spend.

Cool Edit / Audition generally has a fine reputation for the quality of its processing algorithyms (sp?) - I use a SENSIBLE amount of hard limiting on classical music recordings I make for my home City's independent classical FM station and methodical testing indicates that it does nothing to the sound apart from hard limiting it.

[dobro]

algorithm

rhythm

easy to confuse

[young mecca]

yeah i think adobe auditions is great man with all those effects and filters. but i got a question: after mixing down to a single file do you guys eq that file or do u leave it as is?

[randyfromde]

After mixing it down, I often play with the stereo track a bit. Faux-mastering (if you can call it that). I often compress a little, maybe some EQ, a little reverb. Just because I'm a tinkerer and at most I'll make a song into an mp3 to inflict on friends.

[young mecca]

what type of compression do you do? 2:1? do you think it's wise to compress a final mix and then to run loudness maximizer in wavelab after?

[dobro]

"After mixing it down, I often play with the stereo track a bit. Faux-mastering (if you can call it that). I often compress a little, maybe some EQ, a little reverb."

Randy, why do it after the mixdown? Why not before when everything's in Multitrack and easier to tinker with?

[randyfromde]

what type of compression do you do? 2:1? do you think it's wise to compress a final mix and then to run loudness maximizer in wavelab after?

I compress it differently each time. I'd like to say I know what I'm doing, but I just 'eyeball' it to see how the wav file changes, and listen to it to see if I think it sounds better or worse!

Randy, why do it after the mixdown? Why not before when everything's in Multitrack and easier to tinker with?

I do that too! I'm at the pure experiment/learning stage, so I just mess with all the sliders on all the filters. If it is a radical adjustment, I'll probably go back to multitrack mode and change something there.

[BlackoutSP]

Originally Posted by randyfromde

After mixing it down, I often play with the stereo track a bit. Faux-mastering (if you can call it that). I often compress a little, maybe some EQ, a little reverb. Just because I'm a tinkerer and at most I'll make a song into an mp3 to inflict on friends.

what you called faux-mastering is what mastering is. mastering is the final touches mad after all of the mixing, and individual effects, eq, etc. have been applied.

in fact, even these final touches aren't even mastering (although everyone in the world calls it that, and that is fine, i do to), they are the pre-mastering. the true mastering is what happens when you send the premaster off to the replication plant and they make the glass master in a class 1 clean room. this process, the real mastering has absolutely nothing to do with the fine-tuning you speak of, so even if you did know about this technicality (premastering vs. mastering), your phrase 'faux-mastering' still has no basis.

to answer the orignal question, yes, eq you it gently, and hard-limit it, normalize all the tracks, all three of these steps are important if you want the cd to be a similar volume/tone/feel/sound in consumer players as commercial stuff.

-Keith

[dobro]

Keith, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not in this thread, and certainly not in the thread about pk files. Correct me if I'm wrong.