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Old 08-22-2004
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Hey Kids! This might sound a little stupid so i hope no one is here to judge. My Guitarist owns a cake walk program Cake walk music create2003. There's a greenish picture of a girl on the front i dont know if that helps any. Well we all record the our instruments at the same time. The best position for the mic to pick up the instruments is right near the bass drum and we place the amps right next to the bass drum. So obviously the sound we recive is very bassy and its hard to hear all the other drums. The mic we use is a Nady Condensor a scm 900 series to be specific. We are on a low budget and cannot afford a drum mic kit. After we record the music I go back and finish up with vocals. It's very difficult tho because we can't mix it together due to lack of knowledge of this program. The way we mix it together is saving the tracks and then opening them and mixing them in the sound recorder program that comes standard on windows. This is difficult becuase we need to get the timing exactly right. I wanted to know if we need an actual mixing board or can you mix it together in the program. another thing is if we record two seperate tracks is there a way to put the tracks together in the program and burn a cd of our demo straight from the program. Well thats about all the trouble we have with it so any help is greatly appreciated. You guys are awesome. THANK YOU SO MUCH!! - BASSBOYCUA -
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OK...

- You should mix the individual tracks in Music Creator, forget Sound Recorder. Use the level controls in Music Creator to balance the various sounds.
- You should export the finished track as a 16-bit 44.1KHz .WAV file and then burn that to disc using another program. FILE-EXPORT.

To be perfectly blunt, I doubt very much that you will get anything worth listening to if you continue to record in this manner. You just won't get enough clean seperation on the sounds.

Why don't you try this method for recording -

1. Set up a MIDI click track in Music Creator at the correct tempo.
2. Go through and insert markers for each of the sections of the song.
3. Get the guitarists to record a scratch track along to the click track. Spend some time on this to get it fairly tight, but don't go crazy.
4. Get the drummer to record his track alone against the scratch track, (thru headphones)
5. Use the mic at the top right edge of the kick drum, pointing up between the snare and first tom.
6. When you have finished, move the mic and stick it in the kick. Record four good hard hits and four good softer hits.
7. Move the mic and stick it up above the cymbals. Record four good hard hits, (with very long tails), and four good soft hits. Make sure you record edge-hits and cymbal bell rides if your drummer uses them.
8. Do the same thing for the snare drum and maybe the hi-hats.
9. Look at your drummer's original track, go through and insert your samples on another seperate tracks for kick, snare, cymbals and hats.
10. You should end with one track of the original drummer and four others containing your "support" hits. Bring the level of these four other tracks up slightly to support the original track and give it proper definition.
11. Balance your levels, add the original guitarists scratch track and mic up the bass amp.
12. Record the bass track, stopping to drop in replacements for places where they get fur-balls.
13. Balance the levels of the drums with the new bass track.
14. Repeat step #12 for the rhythm guitar
15. Repeat step #13 for drums, bass + new rhythm guitar
16. Repeat step #14 for lead guitar
17. Repeat step #15 for drums, bass, rhy. gtr + lead gtr.
18. Repeat step #16 for vocals.
19. Repeat step #17 for drums, bass, gtrs + vocals.
20. Repeat step #18 for backup vocals.

Once you have done that, you can individually pan each part of the band to it's own location and add effects to individual parts. Once you are happy with the individual levels, use FILE-EXPORT to write a single stereo 16-bit, 44.1KHz file mixdown of your tracks. Once you have that, you can burn it to audio CD format using any of the usual suspects.

Hope that helps.

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Ur band probably sucks anyway so u shouldn't even bother..My band; on the other hand kick munkey touche(butt)....
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Ur band probably sucks anyway so u shouldn't even bother..My band; on the other hand kick munkey touche(butt)....
That's most likely because you spent all the time practicing your guitar that you were supposed to be spending learning how to spell.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on U and Ur (although I personally detest that usage); however it's monkey tush.

I'll leave the punctuation for someone else.
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