sony 7506 / sennheiser hd 280 / directsound extreme isolation hp's

[earworm]

now,
like many other people i've been looking around for nice headphones,
now i'm not really concerned about the sound-quality since i'm not gonna mix with headphones on;...

but,
i do record alot in the same room, and i also had annoying feedback and bleed-trough of my clicktrack

so i wonder, do those socalled ISOLATION headphones really do a nice job ?

i spent some money on my PC so its more silent,
and now the HP's are causing problems with i record vocals,
so i don't want much sound to come out of the hp's,
AND it would be awesome if i could play drums while listening to music,
with those HP's ;..

so do you guys think that these HP's are decent for this ?:=

sony 7506 / sennheiser hd 280 / directsound extreme isolation hp's

which one can handle the highest SPL and which one has the best isolation ?


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too bad those phones can cost up to twice as much in europe !

[guhlenn]

HD 280 109,- euro new

Like them alot! really good sound though a bit bassy. Isolate very well (i do the guitarmicing thing in the same room. Bleed to outside is really minimal.

[mrface2112]

i too vote for the sennheisers. i've got a pair of HD280's and HD580's, and while for listening i prefer the open 580's, the 280's can't be beat for recording, isolation and keeping that ear-splitting "plink" out of your sensitive vocal tracks.

i've tried the 7506's as well, and for a bassist or a drummer who needs a hyped low end, they'd prolly be better, but i don't like them for that very reason.

for a flat frequency response and overall great sound, it's hard to beat the HD280s. i wish i had 7 or 8 pairs of em.


cheers,
wade

[Harvey Gerst]

Also, take a listen to the Beyer DT250 and the 770.

Wish I could recommend the MoreMe' headphones (http://moreme.info), but they're in a different league, and for a different purpose.

[earworm]

thanx guys,
i heard real good stuff about those 280's, some people even say you can try to mix with them ... whooooo ;.. but i don't give any comments on that;. .hehe

i got an entire bunch of HP's, all kinds of brands, sizes and colors,
not one of them is really suitable for vocal recording, they all bleed trough too much .... so i guess i'm gonna get one pair of them 280's

i'd love to give those "MoreMe' " HP's a listen, but i just don't know about them ;.. something tells me they are just junk ... don't know why .. maybe i took a too close look at the specs;...

[Harvey Gerst]

Originally Posted by earworm

thanx guys,
i'd love to give those "MoreMe' " HP's a listen, but i just don't know about them ;.. something tells me they are just junk ... don't know why .. maybe i took a too close look at the specs;...

Of course they're junk!! What the hell do you expect for 20 bucks? But there's "good junk" and "bad junk".

The MoreMe's happen to be "good junk"; they're cheap, loud, rugged, and they do a good job of keeping outside sounds out. If you need more than that, spend 4 to 5 times the money, but don't say I didn't warn you when some drummer steps on your treasured phones.

As far as specs, they ain't bad - they go out about as far as most mics go. Unless you're recording a pipe organ, why do you need to hear anything below 30 or 40Hz in a tracking set of headphones? And 18kHz is more than good enough at the high end; hell, 12kHz is good enough for tracking.

You need "fancy-shmancy" phones for mic placement or mixing? Get any of the phones suggested (including the Beyer DT250 and DT770 I recommended earlier in this thread), but don't "dis" my phones unless you've tried them.

As far as for tracking vocals, we've had no complaints from any of the groups here about using the MoreMe's for tracking vocals (and that includes: The Feds, Pimpadelic, Slow Roosevelt, Element Eighty, and South FM - all major label groups).

You wanna hear lotsa bass and cymbals while tracking vocals? Go with any of the others. You wanna be able to hear yourself when you're singing? Get some MoreMe's. They're cheap, but they're not "junk" (in your sense of the word).



PS: I hope everybody realizes this is supposed to be a funny post. I really don't care which phones he buys, and I said that the MoreMe's weren't the right phones for his situation early on in the thread.

[guhlenn]

you did seem a bit agitated... LOL... I don't think the guy realised you were the person to ask for moreme phones, or he would have been more polite... LOL

Time to apologise earworm...

[earworm]

hey man, i hope i didn't step on your toes, didn't mean to offend anyone,
but just,,, it sounded like you wanted to sell them ... and in that case you can't be totally objective, right ?

but its true what you say, i need HP's not for mixing but just for tracking,
and in that case those memores might do a great job

but there's a reason why i'm being so stubborn, i've had some feedback problems and real big "bleed-through" problems with all the HP's i got right now,
so i started looking out for something really decent, something only ME or the Vocalist wears, and yeah, i'd rather let someone step on my sennheisers than on my Fostex phones

anywayz, if i ever need like a bulk of 6 Hp's, i might check out the memores, but right now, its only ONE decent mofo i'm looking for

regards,
earworm

[Harvey Gerst]

Originally Posted by earworm

hey man, i hope i didn't step on your toes, didn't mean to offend anyone, but just,,, it sounded like you wanted to sell them ... and in that case you can't be totally objective, right ?

Huh? In my first post, I said:
"Also, take a listen to the Beyer DT250 and the 770. Wish I could recommend the MoreMe' headphones, but they're in a different league, and for a different purpose." Does that sound like I'm recommending them to you? I said go listen to the Beyers. Then I said the MoreMe's probably wouldn't be the right choice for this situation.

Of course I want to sell MoreMe's because I believe in them, but not if they won't work for your needs. I offer a month's trial period, and if people don't like them, they can send them back for a full refund. A few people have returned them, and that's cool. Most (about 99+ percent) like them and keep them.

I sell a few headphones a month - it ain't making me rich. I sell them for one reason; I found myself with a lot of broken expensive tracking headphones, so I went looking for something that would work without breaking my piggy bank. I found these, and since no stores carry them, I decided to sell them myself.

"Can't be totally objective?" Hell, I probably publicly trash these more than anybody around. They're just $20 cheap-ass headphones that just happen to be okay for tracking. Nothing more, but nothing less either.

If you need Sony's, Sennheiser's, AKG's, or Beyer's, these won't do what you want, but if you need decent tracking phones that isolate pretty well, and are loud and rugged as hell, and let you hear yourself, there's a lot worse out there than the MoreMe's, for a lot more money.

As I said in my first post, if you're looking at the Sony's, Sennheiser's, and AKG's, also give the Beyer's 250's and 770's a listen.

[earworm]

ok, i get the point,
and its true, i should only comment on HP's if i have used or heard them myself, so maybe i shouldn't have said it that way, but i was just thinking out loud .
i'm gonna see if i can get my hands on a pair of "Beyer's 250's and 770's " to see how they sound, but that's the problem, its hard to find all that equipment in stores over here... everything i got comes from other countries,,, so most stuff i bought was based on recommendations and stuff....so i'm sucking information out of everyone,,,and sometimes that might sound a lill harsch

regards,
earworm

[mrface2112]

i've got what, 5 sets of harvey's moremes, and they're great cans for the $20. but that's exactly what they are--$20 cans. great for basic band monitoring/tracking in a live room. not great for quality listening or getting a lot of low end. completely different ball of fish from the sonys, senns, beyers, etc. i'm not saying nothing that harvey hasn't already. ;-)

as much as i love my HD280's, i wouldn't dream of trying to mix with them. the imaging is completely different than on monitors/speakers and it'll screw with your mixes and panning. now, i'll use them to help reference/evaluate a mix, but not for the actual job.....


wade

[earworm]

if any of the musicians in your "studio" stept on a pair of headphones,
do you force him to pay for it ?
it once happened to me, and i didn't want to continue recorded before they payed it ;... how do you guys deal with the DESTRUCTION ?

[Harvey Gerst]

I write the headphones off as disposables, along with mic & guitar cables, picks, batteries, strings, drum sticks, and drum heads I supply.

[guhlenn]

I would kick the offender around untill he had a "click" in his head... no bleeding, at least not form the click.. LOL

mind you I don;t get paid... so i can be agressive

[earworm]

hahaha, i don't get paid so i can get agressive !

THATS THE BEST answer ever !
haahaha, love it

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[Bowisc]

I've been using six pairs of the MoreMe Deluxe cans for sessions and they are excellent. I have AKG 240's, DT779, HD280, K141's, 7509, but I hand out the MoreMe to the bands or groups that I record.

Not one person has ever complained about them. They work well for what they're designed to be. And Harvey's return/exchange policy is the icing on the cake.

[guhlenn]

LOL glad you liked it. Always nice to brighten some one 's day

Anyway, are you from holland? `we might get in touch... I've been looking for a 'dutch recording buddy'...

[earworm]

nope, this is belgium speaking