Inserts on mixers

[noisedude]

I'm picking up a little Yamaha MG because I've decided to put my Behringer where my mouth is ... or maybe that's where my rubbish bin is? Anyway. It's got insert jacks and I have never used them before. What exactly are they, where do they fit in the chain of the channel strip, and what's the one-click thing all about. I will most likely want to use them as direct channel outs, if that's a good use, but understanding their use for effects etc would be good too. Thanks!

[Outlaws]

I just got a Yamaha MG mixer about a week ago too. Awsome mixer.

I had the same question about that.

The insert sends an unbalanced signal out via a TRS cable and the other end is a Y connection. One being a Tip/Sleeve and the other being just the Ring. You use one for sending and the other for the return signal. More for effects, but it should be usable as a direct out and return. Haven't gone and invested in the cables yet, but that is one of the next things on my list.

[MadAudio]

Uh, no - one is tip/sleeve, the other is ring/sleeve.

Tip=send, ring=return.

An insert jack can also be used as a direct channel out. You do this by putting an unbalanced cable half-way in (or to "the first click"). Very handy for recording. I have all my channel inserts connected to a patchbay for even more flexibility.

[noisedude]

Ok, so with my 1/4" inputs on my Delta 44, I could theoretically use a jack to jack (i.e. guitar lead) to get direct outs?

My only concern is that I went all balanced about a year ago because I seemed to be picking up some hum from somewhere. Will have to see how that works out.

[Han]

Look here: http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/sho...d.php?t=118927

Peace, Han

[MadAudio]

Originally Posted by noisedude

Ok, so with my 1/4" inputs on my Delta 44, I could theoretically use a jack to jack (i.e. guitar lead) to get direct outs?

Yes, but I wouldn't use a guitar cable unless that's all you've got.

Originally Posted by noisedud

My only concern is that I went all balanced about a year ago because I seemed to be picking up some hum from somewhere. Will have to see how that works out.

That shouldn't be a problem. Hum can come from a few places, and it's possible to use balanced and unbalanced gear together with no noise issues. Give it a try, I think it'll work fine.

[Ethan Winer]

Nik,

> It's got insert jacks and I have never used them before. <

See "Using a mixer with a DAW" from EQ magazine, first in the list on my Articles page:

www.ethanwiner.com/articles.html

--Ethan

[Treeline]

Nice Article! You've just been bookmarked...

[noisedude]

Han and Ethan - thanks very much. I got the mixer today and I was struck by how it seems like a 'proper' piece of kit (the Behringer UB I have has always looked like a chunky kids' toy) and how un-Mackie it is. Guess that's what you get for original designs ... cough cough.

MadAudio - are you trying to tell me something?

Yes, but I wouldn't use a guitar cable unless that's all you've got.

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