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07-01-2004
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Need a better snare mic. Not happy with sm57
I think the title is pretty self explanatory. I just haven't been happy with the sound of the 57 on the snare. I've tried it on a number of snares, that have been tuned well, and different tunings. I get a decent tone through my over heads, but I want to bring the snare out more in the mix, and I find the sound from the 57 just can't do it. I've tried different positions, and pre amps. I know lots of people like the 57, and its what all books, and magazines say to use, but I want something different. If anyone has any ideas on a decent snare mic, or another way to mic it, any help would be appreciated.
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07-01-2004
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Have you tried it with any pre amps that cost over $500 per channel?
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07-01-2004
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Depends how much you want to spend - I like the Sennheiser e835 and the AKG C1000S (about the only thing I like it on) - but if you spend more you can get 'better'. That Beyer seems to come well-recommended by people on here.
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07-01-2004
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I find this forum very handy sometimes, but every once in a while, you get a comment from an individual, who thinks everyone else is an idiot, using all radio shack equipment. I've used the sm57 with a bunch of pres. Avalon 737, Joe meek Twin Channel, Joe meek VC3 and plugged into my DM 24.
I just don't get the snap that I want, and its not a real crisp sound. even though the particular snare has a snap to it. I find the sound (for lack of a better word) tubby. The mic does not have to be cheep. I want the best sound that I can get. I am on a bit of a budget, but I can work around it to get a good product.
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07-01-2004
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You could try an LDC underneath the snare drum in addition to the 57 (or whatever mic you go with). It catches a lot of more of the crack of the snares. Just use extra care to make sure the snares don't rattle.
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07-01-2004
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I was about to suggest a LDC too, like maybe a B1, but Adam's idea about an over and under configuration might be more on the mark considering how you describe your problem. Grab a B1, then try it instead of the SM57 and try it under with the SM57 above.
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#8
07-01-2004
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Try an SM81, Akg 451 or Neumann KM84/184. My preference is a C451 taped to an SM57 so the caps line up, blend to taste.
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07-01-2004
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Thank God I was smart enough to choose the superior European M201.
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#11
07-01-2004
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I've had good luck with Shure SM-7 on top (it's big, though which is a pain) and an AKG C414B-ULS padded and phase reversed, on the bottom.-Richie
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#12
07-02-2004
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Psst, In-Tune
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07-02-2004
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PS... I think every mic sounds better with a better preamp... what do you think? ---------------------- EDIT: Added... Who's Using the Shure SM57? Alex Acuna Snare Gary Allan Snare BACILOS Snare Barenaked Ladies Guitar Cabinet Benny Snare (top) George Benson Guitar Cabinet Snare Gregg Bissonette Snare Blondie Snare Michelle Branch Snare Bill Bruford's Earthworks Snare Mary Chapin Carpenter Accordian Leslie Cabinet Les Claypool Lead Vocals Natalie Cole Guitar Cabinet Snare Alice Cooper Guitar Cabinet Snare Damageplan Snare Diamond Rio Snare (top) Die Happy Snare Vince Gill Leslie Cabinet Snare (top) Buddy Guy Leslie Cabinet Snare Boney James Guitar Cabinet Buddy Jewell Snare Judas Priest Snare Kang San-ae Snare Natalia Lafourcade Bongo Guitar Cabinet Libido Snare Mana Conga Guitar Cabinet Snare Timbale MercyMe Snare Jo Dee Messina Guitar Cabinet Snare (bottom) Moby Snare Montgomery Gentry Guitar Cabinet Pedal Steel Cabinet Jamie O'Neal Guitar Cabinet Snare P.O.D. Snare Brad Paisley Snare Karl Perazzo Snare PUR Snare Queens of the Stone Age Snare Reverend Horton Heat Snare John "JR" Robinson Snare Chris Robinson and the New Earth Mud Snare Lulu Santos Bass Cabinet Steve Smith Snare Aleks Syntek Guitar Cabinet Susan Tedeschi Snare Trick Pony Snare Keith Urban Snare Dave Weckl Snare The Who Guitar Cabinet Leslie Cabinet Snare Wilco Leslie Cabinet Chely Wright Snare Just to name a few... Last edited by DJL; 07-02-2004 at 08:22..
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#14
07-02-2004
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That the SM57 is rubbish.
For snare. Tighten up the damned pick up pattern (or at least make it more pleasant off-axis) and sort the freaking EQ out Shure Bros.
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07-02-2004
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I don't care who uses it. They obviously have great gates to take all the hi-hat the stupid things pick up out of the snare track.
I can't afford great gates.
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07-02-2004
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I also can't afford £200+ per channel pre amps to put back those middle frequencies Shure cut out in their design.
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#18
07-02-2004
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Many people used to believe the World was flat, and that the universe had been created in 6 days.
THEY were wrong.
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07-02-2004
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07-02-2004
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No, I'm going to have to save up a few bones before I get it.
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#22
07-02-2004
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where can i purchase a Beyerdynamic M201?
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#23
07-02-2004
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Full Compass.
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#24
07-02-2004
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I didn't see it on the website.
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07-02-2004
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