how come acid is so unique?

[dopey]

how come acid seems to be the only software for recording that allows the use of crappier sound cards by offsetting for latency?

does this make the recordings crappier somehow? besides the soundcard of course...

anyway, just wondering if there is an answer for that. This is the reason i use acid over cubase etc... my latency is at least 11ms... but it is not an issue with acid or so it would seem.

[AlChuck]

All audio recording apps have latency compensation... otherwise they would be useless.

[dopey]

yeah i guess you have a point...

but acid is the only i know of that really works well with direct x.

and you can use soundforge... but can you playback and record at the same time?

[AlChuck]

I don't understand the points you are making in that last reply.

Back to the original statement you made, the soundcard's latency is compensated for by the software so that when you record something overdubbed over existing tracks, the new stuff lines up properly with the already-recorded stuff. When it becomes an issue is if you're monitoring the signal that's going down on disk rather than the input signal, especially when routed through a plug-in effect, or if or when you're tryin to play DirectX or VST instruments in real-time.

[dopey]

i should have called this thread 'other softwares that do what acid does'

i have tried to record in cubase sx and had a big latency when trying to record over an existing track. so far the only one i have gotten to work in this
'4track' sort of way has been acid.

[AlChuck]

You must have been monitoring what you were trying to record after it passed through the A/D conversion as it was being streamed to disk. If you monitor the input signal the latency is not an issue, with any recording software, any drivers, any OS.

If you need to monitor this way (to hear plug-in effects in realt-time, for example), you need to do this with low-latency drivers - ASIO or WDM. ACID uses ASIO drivers if they're available. Possibly your other attempts were with MME drivers selected.

[dopey]

yeah i have always used the mmx driver for acid.

I have asio, just that it has been buggy until the latest driver release just came out....

so how would you do effects on the recording as you're doing like you were saying? I can get the latency pretty low... low enough anyway, 11ms rock solid, and 2 if nothing else is going on...

[AlChuck]

I add the effects after I track, usually. Sometimes I have a little reverb and delay on from the POD, then I usually I don't do much except maybe add a little compression.

[SPINSTERWUN]

Originally posted by AlChuck
I add the effects after I track, usually. ...... then I usually I don't do much except maybe add a little compression.

Myself also

spin

[dopey]

yeah i use my boss pedals while i am recording.... but i have often wondered about 'virtual' racks and the like...

you know anything about that?


ANYWaY, so you guys use acid and you get good results right?

I have been wondering if there are others that think acid is good or if i am crazy for using to make recordings.

that was the original point of this thread...

[AlChuck]

Well, I use it when I make loop-based stuff I want to record over, typically... and it's just me, one take at a time, so it's fine for that...

But it's not a multitracker, so for any of those situations it's not well-suited as a recording tool at all.

[SPINSTERWUN]

I use Acid for idea generation, sequence construction, and arrangement.

I use Sonar 3 Producer Edition for my multi-tracking.

dopey, if you enjoy Acid, then you might want to take a look at Vegas Video 4 for your multi-track purposes.

spin

[SPINSTERWUN]

Vegas Video

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ct.asp?PID=808

[dopey]

so when you say 'multi-tracking'

you mean recording multiple tracks at once right?

I only do one at a time for now, but i've been learning to use cubase sx lately for when i get some better hardware...

for now i only have the standard mic and line inputs on my soundcard... although i have gotten the latency all the way down

[SPINSTERWUN]

Originally posted by dopey
so when you say 'multi-tracking' .......you mean recording multiple tracks at once right?.....

Yes.

[dopey]

for that you need a soundcard that allows multiple in at once i guess huh?

not just yer normal soundcard.... or can software allow that for normal soundcards with just a mic and line inputs?

any soundcard suggestions?

[AlChuck]

Yes, you need a card with multiple inputs. There are cards with four, eight, or sixteen (I think there's one of the MOTU units that has 24) analog ins.

Of course software can't allow for multitracking from a stereo line in. I mean, you could arm eight tracks and set them to record from one or the other side of the stereo line in, but you can't separate different audio content into the tracks, you just would get extra tracks with the same stuff in them.

As far as suggestions, I'm fond of my Delta 66.

[dopey]

hehe that's an idea! yeah i didn't think there were too many options...

thanks for the suggestion alchuck i'll check that card out

[SPINSTERWUN]

http://www.midiman.net/index.php?do=...=pciinterfaces