setup tips

[Jokker]

How y'all doin? I need some advice. I'm lookin' to set up a studio that I can base around my HP Pavilion PC (if needed I can outboard it with extras to make it better). I need to know about what all the best stuff would be. I have Cool Edit Pro already and won't sacrifice it for anything else, so don't suggest recording software, but tell me the best drum machine, sampler, sequencer, mic, preamp, mixer, monitors, headphones, and ways to connect it all to the computer (preferably let me know where I can get this off the net...I hate internet shopping). Money, since I'm going to be buying it all individually, is no object. Just let me know the best right now and give me a price for it and the store to get it from.


PS I know I posted before asking how to connect my current Numark mixer to the computer, but I want something better than that mixer, so suggest all that you will.

[LiquidBronze]

whats your budget??

you say money is no object, but do you have enough to cover some $10k dollar piece of equipment???
because people would start suggesting the "best" money can buy if your saying money isnt a object

peace
LB

[Jokker]

That's fine. I want all the best that money can buy. I just want to know what the best stuff is and a ballpark price for itso I can start saving. I don't care if I have to save $10,000 for it.

[vestast]

Originally posted by Jokker
How y'all doin? I need some advice. I'm lookin' to set up a studio that I can base around my HP Pavilion PC (if needed I can outboard it with extras to make it better). I need to know about what all the best stuff would be. I have Cool Edit Pro already and won't sacrifice it for anything else, so don't suggest recording software, but tell me the best drum machine, sampler, sequencer, mic, preamp, mixer, monitors, headphones, and ways to connect it all to the computer (preferably let me know where I can get this off the net...I hate internet shopping). Money, since I'm going to be buying it all individually, is no object. Just let me know the best right now and give me a price for it and the store to get it from.


PS I know I posted before asking how to connect my current Numark mixer to the computer, but I want something better than that mixer, so suggest all that you will.

Little confused, but you say you don't want to switch from Cool Edit and yet your asking for the best sequencer . Also, I like adobe (cool edit) but I think - and somebody correct me if I'm wrong - that if your also looking for a sampler you would not be able to run one in Cool Edit....?

Just a thought..

[Jokker]

Hey, I never said I knew what any of the stuff was for. I know samplers...didn't know about running one through Cool Edit, though. Besides, I keep hearing about this drum machine that's a sampler and all that all rolled into one. I don't know if I'm able to run it through CEP, but I can find ways around that. Anyone know which one it is?

[malcolm123]

Originally posted by Jokker
Hey, I never said I knew what any of the stuff was for. I know samplers...didn't know about running one through Cool Edit, though. Besides, I keep hearing about this drum machine that's a sampler and all that all rolled into one. I don't know if I'm able to run it through CEP, but I can find ways around that. Anyone know which one it is?

Tell how much you want to spend and how you plan on doing your music. ie Live 5 piece band, keyboards and samples, 1 vocal at a time, recording 1 sound source at a time, etc ?

we can go from there.

If I would have asked around when I first started I would have saved a hunk of change, thousands. But no, I listened to the salesman. LOL

peace

Malcolm

[Jokker]

Alright for the hardware I heard about that samples and is a drum machine and all that rolled into one, I heard it was somewhere around $400. So, I'll be looking to spend in the $400-$800 range with each piece of equipment.

What I'm planning to do is use this studio setup for beatmaking and hip-hop/r&b recordings. If it can be set up as more than one vocal source at a time, that would be good, but I can settle for single source mic equipment. Also, for the sake of samples, I might want to try hooking drum mics into a mixer and sampling sounds from a drum kit that way, so suggestions to that type of mic would be good.

[malcolm123]

Originally posted by Jokker
Alright for the hardware I heard about that samples and is a drum machine and all that rolled into one, I heard it was somewhere around $400. So, I'll be looking to spend in the $400-$800 range with each piece of equipment.

What I'm planning to do is use this studio setup for beatmaking and hip-hop/r&b recordings. If it can be set up as more than one vocal source at a time, that would be good, but I can settle for single source mic equipment. Also, for the sake of samples, I might want to try hooking drum mics into a mixer and sampling sounds from a drum kit that way, so suggestions to that type of mic would be good.

In that case, I would get a good soundcard, A cheap midi keyboard or controller, a condensor mic, decent micpre, Softsynths for instruments and Drums, and a sequencer like Sonar,Cubase, etc. That wll give you a better sound than you think once you learn how to work it all, mix, and record with a good clean signal.


Malcolm

[Jokker]

Thanks for letting me know what to get. Any ideas on which brands and models to get?

[malcolm123]

Originally posted by Jokker
Thanks for letting me know what to get. Any ideas on which brands and models to get?

I dont really like recommending products . You may need to go to the newbie forum and search. But if I was just starting out in todays technology and wanted to do what you are trying to do I " and this is just me" would go with these.

mic= Marshall V67g
micpre = DMP3 or a SP VTB-1
sequencer = Sonar XL
Softsynths = I would look for freebies. I like Reason though. Surreal is also pretty good and cheap.
keyboard = any one that does midi
soundcard = just too many options

there you go !

[Jokker]

Thanks.

[Jokker]

As far as the keyboard thing goes, I got one that does midi, it's just a cheap one from Radio Shack.

[PersonalJesus]

If you buy monitors either buy Genelec 1030a;s with a sub, or Mackie HR824. That will set you up fine and dandy. HR824 gonna be about $1200. Genelecs over $2,000.

[malcolm123]

Originally posted by PersonalJesus
If you buy monitors either buy Genelec 1030a;s with a sub, or Mackie HR824. That will set you up fine and dandy. HR824 gonna be about $1200. Genelecs over $2,000.

My HR824s are pretty sweet to me.

Some like them some dont. I do. If I were to get a cheaper monitor I would go with the Yorkville Ysm1s

[SPINSTERWUN]

Originally posted by Jokker
That's fine. I want all the best that money can buy. I just want to know what the best stuff is and a ballpark price for itso I can start saving. I don't care if I have to save $10,000 for it.

Since money is no object..........


Qty Item Description Price Ext Price

A PRO TOOLS
1 Power Mac G5 Dual 2GHZ 512MB ram $2,999.00 $2,999.00
1 1GIG Ram DDR upgrade $250.00 $250.00
2 Apple 23" Cinema HD Display $1,999.00 $3,998.00
1 Argosy 90-PC32-RRG console $3,190.00 $3,190.00
1 Digidesign Control console $11,995.00 $11,995.00
5 Digidesign Fader Pack $6,495.00 $32,475.00
1 Digidesign Pro Tools HD3 System $10,495.00 $10,495.00
4 Digidesign 192 I/O interfaces $3,400.00 $13,600.00
1 Digidesign SCSI 64 w SCSI $545.00 $545.00
1 Pro Tools 13 Slot Expansion Chassis $1,800.00 $1,800.00
1 Digidesign Digidrive 36GB 10K RPM $990.00 $990.00
1 Digidesign digidrive 72GB 10K RPM $1,450.00 $1,450.00
1 Digidrive Rackmount Kit $93.00 $93.00
1 192 AD Card $1,295.00 $1,295.00
1 192 DA Card $1,195.00 $1,195.00
1 192 digital card $995.00 $995.00
1 Digidesign Midi I/O $550.00 $550.00
1 Digidesign Sync I/O $1,850.00 $1,850.00
1 Digidesign Pre $2,200.00 $2,200.00
1 Waves Plat TDM bundle $3,200.00 $3,200.00
1 Antares Autotune TDM $475.00 $475.00
1 Massive Pack Plug in Bundle $1,195.00 $1,195.00
2 Control Digi snake kit $599.00 $1,198.00
7 Digisnake DB25 to TRS $90.00 $630.00
Subtotal A $98,663.00


B MONITORING
2 Genelec 1032A sing 10" 2-way monitors $2,200.00 $4,400.00
2 Genelec 1039A dual 15" 3-way monitors $6,710.00 $13,420.00
1 Genelec 7073A quad 15" subwoofer $5,974.00 $5,974.00
5 Mackie HR-824 sing 8" 2-way monitors $565.00 $2,825.00
2 Yamaha NS10 sing 5.25" 2-way monitors $150.00 $300.00
1 Hafler P1500 power amplifier $450.00 $450.00
Subtotal B 27369


C HARDWARE
2 Avalon VT737sp Mic/Pre/Comp $1,900.00 $3,800.00
1 DBX 120 A/XP Sub-Harmonic $299.00 $299.00
2 Universal Audio 6176 mic pre/comp/limtr/eq $2,195.00 $4,390.00
2 Universal Audio 1176LN comp/limitr $1,600.00 $3,200.00
1 Manley VoxBox MicPre/Comp/Limtr/EQ $3,600.00 $3,600.00
1 Manley Massive Passive EQ $4,320.00 $4,320.00
1 Apogee Big Ben 192k Master Word Clock $1,200.00 $1,200.00
1 Apogee AD 16 AD converter $2,599.00 $2,599.00
1 Apogee DA 16 DA converter $2,599.00 $2,599.00
4 Empirical Labs EL8 Distressors w Brit + Image $1,985.00 $7,940.00
1 Emipirical Labs EL7 Fatso compressor $2,250.00 $2,250.00
1 Alesis • ADAT XT20 $980.00 $980.00
1 Tascam DA-45 24bit DAT Recorder $1,800.00 $1,800.00
Subtotal C 38977


D SYNTHS/SAMPLERS
1 Korg Triton 88 key Workstation $4,000.00 $4,000.00
1 Roland Fantom S 61 Key Workstation $2,095.97 $2,095.97
1 Yamaha Motif Rack Synthesizer $999.00 $999.00
1 Roland XV-5080 Synthesizer $0.00
1 Pioneer CDJ-1000 CD Turntable $1,169.99 $1,169.99
1 Technics SL1210 MKII Turntable $469.00 $469.00
1 Numark TTX1 Digital Turntable $399.00 $399.00
1 Vestax PMC 07 Pro DJ mixer $399.99 $399.99
Subtotal D 9532.95


E MICS
1 Neumann • U 87 Large Diaphram Microphone $2,346.00 $2,346.00
1 Neumann TLM103 Microphone $975.00 $975.00
2 AKG C414/ULS SE Microphone $700.00 $1,400.00
1 Rode NTK Microphone $500.00 $500.00
4 Shure SM-57 Dynamic Microphone $80.00 $320.00
2 Shure SM Beta-58a SuperCardioid
Microphone $164.00 $328.00
4 Audio Technica Pro 37R High SPL Cardioid Mic $140.00 $560.00
4 Sony MDR 7506 Headphones $99.67 $398.68
Subtotal E 6827.68


F BASS/GUITAR
1 Music Man Stingray 4 4-String Bass $1,299.99 $1,299.99
1 Yamaha Silent Guitar $550.00 $550.00
1 Warwick RockBass Corvette Classic $549.99 $549.99
1 Hartke Kickback 12 Bass Guitar Combo Amp $459.99 $459.99
1 Boss GT-6B Bass Multi Effect $399.99 $399.99
Subtotal F 3259.96

G MISCELLANEOUS
4 Furman PL Plus Surge Protector $159.00 $636.00
4 DBX PB-48 patch bay $129.00 $516.00
7 CNB ATA 4-Space Effects Rack $59.99 $419.93
3 CNB ATA 2-Space Effects Rack $49.99 $149.97
5 Auralex MoPad Monitor Isolation Pad $29.97 $149.85
2 High Back Executive Chair $149.98 $299.96
1 Neumann EA1 Nickel Shockmount $185.97 $185.97
1 Rode SM2 Shockmount $49.95 $49.95
1 Neumann Spider Shockmount $0.00 $0.00
1 AKG H100 Elastic Spider Shockmount $0.00 $0.00
6 Quik Lok MI Mic Stand $21.95 $131.70
6 Quik Lok Mic Boom $24.97 $149.82
4 Quik Lok Mic Stand Short W/Boom $35.97 $143.88
6 Quik Lok MI 329 Sheet Music Holder $25.97 $155.82
4 Atlas Mic Stand Tall W/5' Boom $259.97 $1,039.88
1 Quik Lok Z726 Keyboard Stand $199.97 $199.97
$0.00
4 Rubbermaid Diamond Chair Mat $15.99 $63.96
2 Open Mesh Task Chair $59.99 $119.98
1 Couches, TVs, Cables, Adapters, $5,000.00 $5,000.00
6 Shure Popper Stopper $26.19 $157.14
Subtotal G 9569.78

Subtotal of A - G $194,199.37
Tax $16,992.44


Total $211,191.81

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spin

[Jokker]

not too bad of a price considering theres alot of studios around here that say they spent about 500,000 on all the equipment...thanks spin

[Flo' Dolo]

Originally posted by SPINSTERWUN
Since money is no object..........
Total $211,191.81

spin

You're a funny cat, spin...

[SPINSTERWUN]

Originally posted by Flo' Dolo
You're a funny cat, spin...

Well....... he did say that money was no object.

Peace...

spin

[SPINSTERWUN]

But seriously..... when you do get some "extra" money

You should pick up this...

Manley SLAM

http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/SLAM.html

With Digital I/O, it lists for $9,100.00

spin