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Old 03-10-2004
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copying problem

Hello,
I am running into a bit of a snag that I could use some advice with. I have a TEAC RW D-250 that I use to burn CD's when I want to mixdown from my TASCAM 424 MKII.

I figured I'd use SONY RW CD's as a master as they are rewriteable so therefore reusable saving some coin. I dubbed a CD that I had finalized that was a write once type onto a Sony RW Digital Audio CD that was rewiteable,finalized the Sony CD and then I then tried to dub using the Sony as the source and got a Can't copy error. a SCMS error.

Can anyone tell me what I did wrong ? I would like to master using the Sony CD's and then copy to write once CD's. Is that possible with the equipment that I have? If not what do I have to do to accomplish what I want ?
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You can't use CD-RWs in that context - use CD-Rs.........

CD-Rs in bulk are bloody cheap ($0.50 cents each), so it's not like you're saving much trying to use CD-RWs -- especially since they won't work!
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SCMS

SCMS is a copy protection protocol for consumer electronics CD recorders. It stands for "Serial Copy Management System". What it does is mark the first copy you have as a "copy" and then prevents you from making copy from a "copy", as only one copy is allowed for you. This system was implemented to prevent illegal copies. You could, however, make a copy from a master, which you obviously do not have as your original is a "put together" by yourself. The professional CD recorders do not have this feature for obvious reasons. You would also notice, that your machine will not take CD-R's or CD-RW's that does not have "MUSIC" or "AUDIO" logo on them. Which means you can not use CD-R's for computers that are green or blue (regardless of tint concentration or less concentration) on the record side of the CD.

To solve your situation is to buy MUSIC/AUDIO CD's and make them your Master, then, copy to your heart's content on your computer burner.

Hope this helps

And Blue Bear, for somebody who knows a lot with a lot of post score, how could you advise somebody by shooting from the hip. His copying problems has nothing to do whether the disk is CD-R or CD-RW.

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I hav eno idea what you're talking about... you CAN'T use a CD-RW as a redbook media storage because of the higher error rate and overall poorer readability.

Further - you're totally clueless as to the meaning of CD-Rs stamped "Audio/Music only".... Audio/Music Only CD-Rs are media that have the copybit preburned ON. So it is advisable NOT to use them - period (unless you like paying more for the "benefit" of not being able to digitally copy your own material.)

Buy a clue before you post more nonsense TonyA.... you're obviously missing quite a bit of knowledge.....
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Blue Bear, Blue Bear, my son, there you go again, shooting from the hip. Didn't you know little knowledge is dangerous?

Click this link and learn a little bit, I did a little research for you so you don't have to hear it from me:

http://www.mitsuicdr-store.com/SCMS_nh.html

He was definitely using a consumer cd recorder! You should have gathered that from his post. He can use a CD-RW AND CD-R as long as they are MUSIC/AUDIO types. And NO, his recorder will absolutely refuse to accept Computer/Data Type CD-R's. Didn't you know that? His problem has nothing to do with "High error rates" of CD-RW. Currently, there are no or very little difference in price of both types of CD recordables (AUDIO vs. DATA types).

You can, of course modify your posts, so it is not too embarassing.

When I am wrong, I admit it. I am big enough for that, I am sure you are too.
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