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Placement of Monitors?

Hiya

Just wondering where the best place to situate monitors is ?

Directly in front?

Behind ?

Left / Right ?

Shut it you fool it doesn't matter as long as you can hear it ?


Where do you guys put yours (monitors that is ...) ?
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Here are a few generalities.
Don't put speakers right up against a wall (unless they'll be mounted inside the wall in soffits) as this can exagerate bass response. Same goes for corners of a room. Same thing can happen but worse.
Do put them at ear level relative to your standard listening position.
And Smoove, maybe you might want to post less advice and read a little more.
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man please u said the same thing i said. Im here to offer advice. I read the shit from a site similar to this.

http://www.homerecordingconnection.com/

Check it out. Maybe YOU might learn something...But anyway...

be sure to use decent speakers that are equa-distant from your head so you get a true stereo image while mixing. Placement should form a triangle shape with your head in the middle. Just a suggestion. And i dont care how many posts you got under your belt, you offer the same advice I gave.

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man please u said the same thing i said. Im here to offer advice.
No - you mentioned a whole lot of nonsense regarding walls and wells..........

Post-count is irrelevant, but knowledge counts - and Track Rat knows more about audio than you could ever hope to, Wisenheimer....



Track Rat's right about another thing too - you ought to read more and post less, until you get some knowledge under your belt......
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wow yall even team up here lol!!! I would be crazy to get angry at this wouldnt I? =]

hmm =\

Well ill leave it to the "big doggs" of the forum lol

Anyway, Good luck Floyd. Hope this thread helps you. =]

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OK I get it now guys...seems there's a little baggage...
http://homerecording.com/bbs/showthr...hreadid=114861

Anyway to listen and judge stereo mixes I use the equidistant triangle method, the 2 front speakers are 3 feet apart and I move my monitoring position within 3-4 feet at my point of the triangle.

I'm trying this tight triangle with a set of nearfield monitors that have a 6" woofer so I don't excite too many of the room modes (room is 12' x 20') when listening at about 80-83 dBA SPL as displayed on my radio shack spl meter. I have put up some acoustic treatments including a couch and some 703 overhead as well as in a u-shape around my listening position - kinda like if they were mobos. I used hand-claps to judge my RT60 and just threw up some blankets and stuff to control that.

The speakers are about 3 feet away from any wall. These particular monitors (Alesis active M1) are front ported and I have both ports plugged (with rolled up socks, hehe) to EQ & balance the bass.

Having listened to that for a couple of months now I can say I really don't like the triangle to be that tight - I don't like the tight stereo field sound, I only have nearfields so I think I'll spread them out to at least a 4' triangle and redo the room acoustics as neded or put a 2nd pair of nearfields out wider (looking at Mackie 824, 624, BM6A, maybe V8's). In other words I might go to an 8" woofer...the year is still young though !
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The placement of your studio monitor speakers depends on the kind of studio monitor speakers you have and the room you listen to them with. In the old days, they use big speakers with big wattage. But that required expensive Acoustic treatment of the listening room for accuracy and ensuring the room will not influence the true sound. Now, engineers have opted to go the less expensive route. They made the speakers smaller with less wattage, but the influence of the room has less say on what you hear. But one caveat - you have to place them "near you". And voila - "near-field monitors" were born. The closer they are, the less sound reflections your hear from the room. Having said that, locate your monitors in order to hear as accurate sound as your monitors can belt out. Also, ensure you have a pair of true "Studio Near Field Monitor" as home stereo speakers are designed to make the music sound good, instead of "accurate" as the Near Field Monitor does.

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All this advice is great and warrants experimentation.

But the first thing you should do is read the manual that came with the monitors. Some are designed to stand horizontal, some vertical. In many cases the manufacturer will know what will generally give you the most accuracy with the product they built.

If you don't have the manual, see if you can get it online, or contact the manufacturer, or find someone who has the same monitors you have and ask them how theirs are set up.

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Put them anywhere you want. Do a mix. Take it to your home stereo then your car. If its bad, move the monitors. Repeat until you come close to something that translates well across all sources. This then is the best spot for your monitors. If this never works, buy more expensive monitors. Repeat. If this fails you will have to build a real room to monitor in. Repeat.....

Another technique, go to the bookstore. Pick up a copy of any recording magazine, mix is good, there is always a picture of some top end studio. See where the monitors are? Put yours exactly the same way. If this doesn't work, go to the method above.

If all else fails get a subwoofer, the rumble makes you feel powerful.
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