Non-midi Midi

[Toonsmith]

O.k.. I'm running logic 4.8.1. I've recorded all my audio and have a midi string track I created in the matrix editor (ie. painted in). When monitoring the tracks it comes out perfect through my Delta 66 Omni.

Now the problem. When I bounce the tracks down to a wave file, the midi string track doesn't record with the rest of the audio tracks.

Am I doing something wrong or does someone have a suggestion on something to try. I'm almost at my wits end!

[AlChuck]

I don't have Logic, but your problem is a coomon one. The MIDI data is triggering whatever's playing your synth, but is not sound itself -- the sounds are playing along in synch with your audio tracks but are not in audio trackes themselves. You need to record them to audio tracks, then mix down.

You mentioned just a Delta 66 so I'm assuming that you are running some VSTi from inside Logic to get your MIDI sounds. If that's so, there might be a more direct way to render the MIDI data to audio, like in SONAR.

[Toonsmith]

Thanks for the fast reply Al!

If I run the midi data out through a direct out of the Omni then return it in through a aux in do you think it will record as a audio track? I can't seem to figure out a way to do it within the program. Although there must be someway.

[AlChuck]

Surely you must mean "If I run the midi synth's audio through a direct out of the Omni then return it in through a aux in do you think it will record as a audio track?"

It will if you arm a track. But you shouldn't have to do that. You should be able to route the sound via the Delta control panel, if not the easier mix-to-track approach like SONAR offers...

Maybe a Logic person will chime in here...

[Toonsmith]

Thanks for all the help Al.

But I figured it out all by myself! Ha, ha! Though it was hard to find, the information is in the manual with one step left out! It's hard to find cause there's so many different references to Midi scattered all over the manual.

If anyone has the same problem just ask! I can answer this one!

[AlChuck]

Why don't you tell us what happened?

[Toonsmith]

In my version of logic I have 8 audio tracks, 2 audio instrument tracks and an assortment of midi tracks to choose from. Although you can add more tracks if you want to. Now for some reason, which I still don't understand, only audio tracks 7 and 8 will let you record midi into audio. That is the part they left out of the manual. I've tried the other audio channels and nothing.

There are also other steps in the manual where they want you to normalize the sequence parameter, turn loops into real copies, fix quantize and then merge the sequences on each track into one continuous sequence. But seeing that I only use one midi track for strings in my songs, I can just bypass most of that and record one sequence on one audio track.

I guess it just goes to show if you mess around with your program long enough, you can usually figure things out on your own. Oh, happy day!

[AlChuck]

Now for some reason, which I still don't understand, only audio tracks 7 and 8 will let you record midi into audio.

Now that is a very strange limitation indeed...

[Toonsmith]

Yeah, it's kind of a drag. I think it's some kind of lite edition. I can't even find it at the Emagic website. When I asked about it they told me they no longer support this version. So I'm thinking about getting something else, even though I love the program. I'll have to find something for PC since they longer make software for that.

Don't ask me why I tried to record on the 7th and 8th track. Frankly it was just blind luck. I must have a little Irish in me.