2NMC Now Accepting Showcase Applicatons

[David Hooper]

It's that time of year again.

Anybody who submits now will get a free ticket to our $197 Music Business Bootcamp on May 8th featuring:

Me, David Hooper
Bob Baker - Author of Guerilla Music Marketing Handbook
Joe Taylor - Author of Grow Your Band's Audience
Jeri Goldstein - Author of How to Be Your Own Booking Agent
Danica Mathes - Attorney

And other special guests...

http://www.2nmc.com/ has info.

http://www.2nmc.com/testimonials/ has comments on last year.

Seating for the bootcamp is limited. Get in now.

[ausrock]

You really are having a problem grasping the fact that this forum isn't here for you to continually SPAM your dubious services.

[johneeeveee]

Originally posted by David Hooper one week ago:

"Ok, fine. It's obvious that I see it one way and you guys see it another.

This is the last post. I'm "shutting up."

... it's almost like you have a compulsive disorder or something, mr. hooper. you simply just don't get it, and probably never will.
peace - jv

[glynb]

Normaly these boards are moderated by someone who can delete spam, shouldn't that happen in this case, or at least in the interests of free speach move the thread to a 'suspected spam' thread heading ?

Come on moderatiors...

[Gidge]

I used to give ol' Dave a hard time but Im starting to like him........





and if you can get me a date with Danica Mathes, Ill take 2 tickets.....make that 3, i better bring my wife......

[Flo' Dolo]

Originally posted by Gidge
I used to give ol' Dave a hard time but Im starting to like him........

I never disliked the guy, only the canned meat-product dude tries to feed us over, and over, and over, and over...
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[quote]
orignally posted by David Hooper This is my business, folks. If it were your business, you'd understand.

Don't be such a damn punk, tough guy. if you got the balls to "defend" yourself, then suck it up and eat them hooks to body & jabs to the jaw.

[size=6]Stick around,
just don't try
to sell your shit here.[/size]

It's real simple, those who contribute here do so freely. Them's the rules that we follow, and the spirit in which we participate, whether they be very new members here or very old. Wherever you fit between those 2 camps doesn't matter, still those who contribute here do so freely. Like I said, them's the rules that we follow, and the spirit in which we participate.

All you've done is refer people to your PAYSITE in response or answer to whatever questions or comments arise.
You keep referring people to your "free" site, but only the pages trying to convince us to pay for your services are free. If it wasn't supposed to make you money, you wouldn't feel the need to protect your livlihood. I mean, it's crystal clear you ain't a not-for-profit kind of guy. You got monthly (yearly?) dues your clients pay to access the information you offer FOR SALE, as opposed to "for free" on your site. It's free to walk into Mickey D's, too, it's even free to smell the food, flirt with the cashier, and order. Thing is, it ain't free to eat. And that's exactly how your site is set up. You whet the appetite, & then charge for the grub...

Now you want sympathy because it's your business, and if it were any of ours, you think we'd understand. Even if we did, it wouldn't matter. The rules of this BBS prohibit what you are practicing here. Just because it's "your business," doesn't mean you don't have to adhere to the same policies that we do. Personally, I don't give a shit whose business it is. I bet it'd be safe to say that no other members here do, either - and if they did, it wouldn't matter. Why? Again, "the rules of this BBS prohibit what you are practicing here." Doesn't even matter about the "spirit" of things, now that I think about it. Though you FEEL justified in hawking your shit & "defending" your name & your company, the rules ARE that no one is allowed to peddle their product here. Even you. If I ask you a question, you should answer it here. You should answer it freely, and also free of charge. I must do the same in order to be a member of this BBS. Those of us who choose not to play by the rules ain't welcome to play at all.

Who are we to enforce it? Well, nobody, I guess. But in that case, neither are you to challenge it with your actions.

I dunno if you're legit or not, and I don't care. I might if you acted like you cared about the very forum in which we "met," but you're continuously disrespecting the very medium for dialogue that we're all using. With that as an introduction, there's no need to move forward, no, there's no WAY to move forward.

originally posted by Dyson Steel You are getting $500,000 worth of bashing on HRBBS

That's hella true, and for you, David Hooper, hella fucked up. The ol' "all publicity is good publicity" routine really holds no water.

Take the hint this time...

As for what you posted earlier about members here being "hilarious," dude, you've only seen a piece of how "hilarious" folks can be protecting what they care about. Any number of members here could carve you out a new asshole simply because you're choosing to toss us all the middle finger, and do shit "your way," because it's "your business." Choose your battles, man. Defending a principle (your rep, since you feel attacked) will only continue to walk you down a fast path to a bad rep, and probably humiliate your ass in front of loads of people. But I guess you already know that, and that's why you keep flailing, trying to fight the good fight even though there really ain't no competitor for you, just some folks who've had less-than-positive experiences with you, and waaaaaaay more folks who don't appreciate how you try to manhandle them, their attention, or their time. I fall into the latter catagory, so I'm speaking out.

You wrote: "If you don't want me here, stop talking about me."

If you'd simply shut the fuck up, all the talking would cease. Then we'd be all greasy again. But it appears that that's too logical, too reasonable, and too difficult a philosophy to embrace.

Nobody posting in this thread made you "look bad." Foolish, maybe. Stubborn, maybe. Useless, maybe. But nobody attacked you, as I see it. If the people who've been posting to this thread chose to "attack" you, I'd bet my last nickel you surely know the difference, and certainly hate the drama.

Play by the rules, or don't play at all.

Don't worry, I won't be jumping in this thread to drag it out any longer, regardless of any posts that may follow, and you've clearly enough to deal with as things stand. I just had to say my piece.

Take it from a guy who doesn't care about or need the services you offer. When all the smoke clears, if you break the rules, you get broke off.

Besides, seeing all the great info, and the people on this site who ARE willing to offer it up free of charge, as smart a guy as you are, surely it should have crossed your mind to not try and hawk what we all offer unconditionally, with no intent to profit from, and again, FREE.

How effing hard is that to understand?

good luck wherever (else) you be.

dj flo' dolo

[David Hooper]

Originally posted by johneeeveee
This is the last post. I'm "shutting up."

For that thread. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

Glad to see you guys are so on top of things and watching me so closely.

[johneeeveee]

Originally posted by David Hooper
For that thread. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

Glad to see you guys are so on top of things and watching me so closely.

actually david, i had been on tour for about a month, and wasn't near this board. i just started checking it again this week, and there you were again.
i don't hate you or your company, but just feel (as others have also stated) that you would be very welcome here if you just left the sales pitch at home (or at the office). if you look around, no one else is posting the type of self promotional threads that you are, and there is a reason for that. this ain't the place. i personally have PLENTY i could be promoting on this site... i am in the industry as well... but i just don't think it's appropriate. you do think it's ok to spam, but get a ton of shit about it when you do, and then you complain that folks won't leave you alone! where is the logic there???
i personally think you could do more for your business by simply helping out here with answering questions and such. you are making a bad name for yourself, and, in turn, your business. people talk, and word of mouth is a powerful thing (i make my living from it). i would personally dig it if you dropped the "tony robbins" speil, and just helped out around here like the rest of us. i'm sure your experience would be greatly appreciated by many.
peace - jv

[Flo' Dolo]

Originally posted by Flo' Dolo
I never disliked the guy, only the canned meat-product dude tries to feed us over, and over, and over, and over...
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Stick around,
just don't try
to sell your shit here.

You (Hooper) wrote: "If you don't want me here, stop talking about me."

djfd wrote: It's real simple, those who contribute here do so freely.

How effing hard is that to understand?

orignally posted by david hooper
For that thread. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

Hard-headed...

orignally posted by david hooper
Glad to see you guys are so on top of things and watching me so closely.

Don't flatter yourself, man. We can't help but see you if you keep posting sales pitches & starting new threads. But you already knew that, didn't you?


djfd