Which rocks harder Cubase SX or Nuendo?

[alphadelta80]

I have a good friend who just recently sold me his old computer with the following prorams installed: Cool Edit Pro 2.0, Nuendo 1.61, Cakewalk Pro_Audio 9 and Cakewalk home studio, Cubase SX, Wavelab, and Logic Platinum. I notice that Nuendo, Cubase and Wavelab are all made by the same company (Steinberg). I would like to know which program is the best for recording and editing. Not just the Steinberg products but all the other abovementioned programs as well. I record with the Yamaha AW4416 (because I'm So comfortable with it) and then I import the WAV.s into one of these programs to edit the waveform graphically and add some cool effects from various plug-ins. I'm new to this computer-based recording/mixing/editing thing. I use these programs at random to do my editing. I want to find out which is the most powerful program so I can stick to that one and focus on that one so I don't have to juggle my time around trying to leard 10 different programs at the same time. I would love it if there was some way I could focus on one program and use the knowledge of one program to help me understand the functions of the others. Are any one of these software progs close-to-industry-standards? Are any of them a-hell-of-a-lot more Pro-level than the others? I just want to know where to direct my time and energy. Please help.

[Blue Bear Sound]

Cubase SX 2 and Nuendo are very similar, the major difference being Nuendo having more multimedia features. They both have the same interface and same code engine.

[kranky]

Blue Bear is right, Cubase is basically a stripped down version of Nuendo. I've been using Nuendo now for about a year and won't ever go back to any other PC based recording software. However, if all you do is music production, you can go with Cubase and be just as happy!

[bigyandixit]

Nuendo seems like advanced version of cubase sx...

i use nuendo its cool i cant explain even both cubase and nuendo are similar ...

Nuendo is the best.. a pro level program



Use

cool edit pro 2 --- for editing purpose
Nuendo or cubase -- mixing using cool vst'z
wave lab too for editing but cool edit is easier..
logic platinium for midi and insturments and things like that..


you need every thing you have you just need to knwo when to use the dam thing

[xstatic]

blah blah blah old post concerning pirated software blah blah blah....

[Farview]

Originally Posted by bigyandixit

Nuendo seems like advanced version of cubase sx...

i use nuendo its cool i cant explain even both cubase and nuendo are similar ...

Nuendo is the best.. a pro level program



Use

cool edit pro 2 --- for editing purpose
Nuendo or cubase -- mixing using cool vst'z
wave lab too for editing but cool edit is easier..
logic platinium for midi and insturments and things like that..


you need every thing you have you just need to knwo when to use the dam thing

This thread is two and a half years old and your info is a little off.

[legionserial]

Originally Posted by bigyandixit

cool edit pro 2 --- for editing purpose
Nuendo or cubase -- mixing using cool vst'z
wave lab too for editing but cool edit is easier..
logic platinium for midi and insturments and things like that..

Sorry to continue the resurrection of this thread but I guess the damage is done now. Just one question?

Did you buy all that software? Gutted. Cubase can pretty much do all of that. It has excellent editing facilities, great mixing facilities, and the midi is also pretty damn good.

Wow....you must have blown a packet of money on all of that stuff.

[bigyandixit]

Originally Posted by Farview

This thread is two and a half years old and your info is a little off.

thats right but its not old thing but what you feel about ....

even to reduce the noise floor there are plugins but i love cooledit pro's one
just to take the response and just editing is very easy there no one can ignore who uses......... we can do in cubase too but in a little teadous manner

every other thing is similar like i said before............

its easiest in that software.........like for example midi and instruments are easiest in frooti loops we can do that from cubase too but if you have every thing why dont you use selectively what you like its just your choice...

its the latest information which i am sayin not once upon a time there was a rabbit.................bla

[legionserial]

My point is that the likelyness of having everything is pretty slim if you actually intend to pay money for your software

In fact its more than likely that if someone has everything...well lets just say I can hear a parrot squawking "pieces of eight" right now.

The Jolly Roger is at full mast guys.

[xstatic]

There are no plug-ins that "reduce" the noise floor. It is more likely that they "cover" the noise floor. Also, midi is just as easy in Cubase as it is anything else, IF you know how to properly use Cubase. In fact, it is MUCH easier if you intend to bring those files into your mix with other audio.

[bigyandixit]

Originally Posted by xstatic

There are no plug-ins that "reduce" the noise floor. I Also, midi is just as easy in Cubase as it is anything else, IF you know how to properly use Cubase. In fact, it is MUCH easier if you intend to bring those files into your mix with other audio.

Ya you are right but i am talking about the cool edits program to take the noise profile and reduce the noise..

every plugins introduces noise whether its cubase or cool edit you cant say cubase plugins do not create the noise...

and the thing about knowing is using midi is and have been improved again and again in cubase .... they are doing a lot but the thing build for it is like frooti or reason ..........


they are build for that and so its easy for those purpose ... i am not saying you need all those softwares the guy says i have those softwares and we all need all those ....so just ..understand

if you have you can learn all of them how to use ......

And its not only me who is sayin that something is easy on that particular software but its annonymous every one is sayin..

+ me too............

[xstatic]

It is not everyone. Generally the people that say that do not use Cubase, but rather use something cheaper and want to justify their purchase. I am not saying however that Fruity Loops or Reason or anything else does not do midi well, just that it does not do it any better. They just do it differently. In the long run however I find Cubase to be much better. It has better advanced features, and more editing options. It also has native support for vsti instruments which have become very standard in the PC audio world. I also think you need to get your information right. Cubase was actually designed to be a midi application that implemented audio as kind of an afterthought. With the introduction of Cubase SX Steinberg greatly revamped the audio engine and developed Cubase into a capable and worthwhile audio application.

As far as plugins and noise, do some research there as well. PLugins by nature do not add noise. Certain ones such as reverbs, flangers, choruses etc... do, but then that is the nature of that specific effect, and not the nature of a plugin. Now certain other plugins may enhance noise. If you add a compressor to a track and then turn up the tracks output or the compressors output to compensate for the gain reduction, than you will make the already existing noise floor of your track increase. This however is not the plugin creating noise, merely the users use of that plugin making it more apparent. If you have so much noise in your tracks that you need a noise reducing plugin, than you really should be evaluating your front end and asking yourself where that noise is really coming from. Bad rooms, cheap mics, and cheaper preamps and/or certain types of outboard gear are usually the culprits in this situation. Bottom line though is that it is not the plugin.

It is nice however that Cool Edit has the noise reduction plugin. There are certainly times when it is useful. It is great for vinyl transfers, or the occasion when I have to mix someone else's poorly recorded tracks. Keep in mind however that noise reduction algorythms do not just reduce noise. They also have audible effects on the recorded tracks. Most of the time it seems that those audible changes actually make the track sound worse than it did with the noise in it. Certain noises are just a fact of life, and sometimes even add character and a sense of reality to a track.

[bigyandixit]

i agree with you xstatic......

Bigy.... It really is OK if you don't agree. Mostly I just wanted to point out the other side of the coin and give it some qualification. There were points you made above that I do agree with, but are not necessarily right.

I am serious and thinking the subject there are extremes of the topic and i agree with you xstatic ..................................

[xstatic]

Bigy.... It really is OK if you don't agree. Mostly I just wanted to point out the other side of the coin and give it some qualification. There were points you made above that I do agree with, but are not necessarily right.