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12-03-2003
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Help Please !
Old guy here...
Complete computer idiot.. Used to use outboard sequencers for recording Midi.. Lost studio in fire.. Now I have cakewalk on my computer and I don't know how to friggin' use it.. I just need some help on the basics.. Bob Young it would be great if somebody wanted to give me an e mail addy so we can discuss this Thanks again 
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12-03-2003
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Re: Help Please !
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12-03-2003
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Hi Bob,
Welcome to the site man..... I am a MIDI idiot but, I am sure there are some fellas here that can help you out here... What I do know is that you have to map the correct signal from the correct source for each track....also, you need to set up the defaults in Cakewalk for the correct ins and outs for your soundcard.... Here is a link to a page with MIDI basics... Click here man.... and all you other ya-hoos..... Give Bob a hand.....he is a frickin' awesome writer and performer.....the real deal...a Chicago legend... sorry to hear about the fire man....hope no one was injured.... take it easy Bob, Joe
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12-03-2003
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I actually think HMusikk pointed him in the right direction. Start with the manual and the online tutorials, and come back here when you get stuck. I think you'll find the people here friendly and quite helpful, but we simply can't answer a question as a broad as "how do I use Cakewalk." Also would be helpful to know what version of Cakewalk, and what is your computer setup (specs, soundcard, etc.).
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12-03-2003
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 Bob, It's been a while since I have used Cakewalk but, if you want to try and talk it through with me I am willing... joerogier@comcast.net c-ya
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12-03-2003
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the cakewalk tutorial, like that of many software tutorials, does not speak clearly to those of us with minimal computer skills.
The terminology is vague and many assumptions are made. I need someone to say "point this here, click this there" Someone with some patience.... Bob
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12-03-2003
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Point this here. Click this there. Somehow I don't see how that's gonna help much.
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12-03-2003
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What dachay here tries to tell you is that it's hard telling other people what to click, etc.
If you don't understand the manual, may we suggest the "click n' try"-method?
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Two wrongs don't make a right, but two Wrights once made an airplane...
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This is a place to get help, and Dachay is the wisest man when it comes to Sonar (except me
).But come on, be fair! You cannot expect us to "tell you were to point and click"? If you're familiar with hardware MIDI-sequensers, just reading the first 3 pages on "Getting started" in the manual should get you going good.
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12-03-2003
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Damn...
Moskus: 28 234 719 Dachay: 5
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12-03-2003
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I said early on that the tutorial was not helping me..
the terminology is vague and confusing.. After a few of hours of clicking and dragging and getting nowhere, I thought maybe i COULD GET SOME HELP FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM AND COMPUTERS. aPPARENTLY THAT IS TOO MUCH FOR YOU TWITS TO GRASP. tHE CONCEPT OF JUST HELPING SOMEONE SEEMS TO BE BEYOND SOME OF YOU. i WOULD SUGGEST THAT dACHAY AND HIS FRIENDS GO BACK TO THE gOTHIC CHATROOM. iF THERE ARE ANY ADULTS HERE THAT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT JUST HELPING SOMEONE WITHOUT BEING A SMART-ASS, I WOULD REALLY BE THANKFUL. The rest of you...go back to the Gothic chatroom and find some 12 year olds to amuse and entertain. Thank you bob
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12-03-2003
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Bob............
you are way out of line man..... these fellas are a helpful lot...... most people now a days who utilize computers for specific tasks such as recording and graphic arts do indeed have a basic computer skills established already.. perhaps this is where you need to start man... if you want my help man, Shoot me an E.....
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12-03-2003
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Joro..
I'm sorry ..I'm not out of line... I was working on several projects at the time of the fire.. I've had Cakewalk on my computer for quite a while.. I never got into it because the hardware was doing fine for me.. When I decided to try cakewalk, I did the best I could to self-tutor myself into working the program.. It uses alot of undefined terminology..clips, etc. I thought coming here would save time.. I appeared just asking for help... I am still asking for help.. It appears that some of the people here would rather be ascerbic than helpful.. that's fine... You say that they are a "helpful" lot here.. I have not been "helped" so far... fortunately I posted my request for help at another forum.. A young man has contacted me and graciously offered to exchange e mails about the specific questions I'm dealing with. Now, THAT'S helpful ! Bob Young PS thanks for the nice words Joro... I wish I could handle this friggin' computer like I can handle these guitars !
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you would be teaching us about software..... not versa - visa Rock on Bob, Joe
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 Listen a-hole, try asking a specific question and you are likely to be given an answer. "How does Cakewalk work?" is not a specific question (or even an answerable one in this venue).
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12-03-2003
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Dachay...
No young man...my feelings are not hurt.... I never asked the question "How does Cakewalk work ?" Apparently your communication skills are wanting in areas of comprehension as well as personal interplay. As I said earlier, a very nice young person has agreed to give me the help I need..and will probably get one of my Stratocasters in return ! That's the kind of guy I am... Go play with your friends...your constant posting to a thread where you are clearly not welcome looks like a cry for attention. ...Sad.... One more internet misfit...... Well...one day the acne will clear up and your whole world will look brighter ! Till then.... All the best Mazel Tov Bob Young Last edited by bob young; 12-03-2003 at 17:51..
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12-03-2003
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Hey Bob - you wanna learn Cubase? I could use a Strat.
lou
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12-03-2003
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I'll tell ya' what Lou...
If I ever figure out what the Hell Cubase is...I'll probably need help then too... I'll look you up and if I got any of these Mex/Strats left... You can friggin' have one ! Fender gave me a couple of them after my fire... This kid that came to me to help with Cakewalk was real nice...never asked for anything in return for the time he's gonna spend on me.. When people are nice to me...I like to repay them the same way ! So....when and if I get...what was it...cubase...I'll call you... If the strats are gone...wouldja settle for a Tele ? bob
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12-03-2003
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bob,
Welcome to the world of recording. As Joro has said before, moskus and dachay2tnr are very knowledgeable when it comes to Cakewalk products. If dachay2tnr's first replay he asked you a simple question that wasn't answered.. Quote:
This forum is more of a ask a specific question as opposed to a 'hold my hand'. In saying that if you say read through a tutorial or do something by accident, and you either don't know why or how, you would ask that here. From your last post it sounds as though someone has shown you the basics, if you do have any specific questions or can't work out how to do something please do post the question here and we will do that to the best of our knowledge.... with everyone here you will get an answer. We may ask questions to get there, so don't be put off when we ask you what may seem to you like silly questions. Porter
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12-04-2003
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Thanks Porter....
I've been in the world of recording for almost 40 years.. It's the world of computer recording that's got me scared. Like alot of us "mature" folks, I'm still abit intimidated by computers and such. At my age, I have lost the ability to sit and patiently "click and try" for hours on end to learn stuff.. It's easier to just get some help. Software tutorials are a pet peeve of mine..not just cakewalk, but instruction sections for most software are written assuming a certain degree of computer literacy on the part of the user. The fact is that most first time computer buyers (like me) are handed the machine with a nice fare-thee-well from the salesperson and then we're on our own. When I got my confuser , I hadThe cakewalk installed because I had heard it was user friendly. Hell..I couldn't open it up for two years ! I appreciate your offer to return with specific questions.. I did npot come with specific questions at the start because I did not know how to word them in ways that would be easily understood. The process of exchanging posts on a thread is very slow..what I was looking for was someone who would exchange e-mails or instant mesasages to answer questions on the fly in a conversational mode. I found a guy in Maryland, about mid 20's I'm guessing, who has the knowledge and patience I'm looking for. He taught his own Dad about computers and some accounting software so he's used to dealing with dopey old farts ! If I wind up having more specific questions in the future I will certainly post them here..I suspect that there are many here who will help out an old fool ! I know Joro from some other boards on the net, and I know him to be a real good (as well as talented) guy. He sez this is a good place and that's good enough for me. Thanks again Bob Young
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12-04-2003
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Hey Bob, you might wanna try this: http://www.digitalmusicdoctor.com/cakenews
or this... http://www.garrigus.com/powerbooks.asp The first one is a video presentation, just sit back and watch the video...
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12-04-2003
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Okay, I've had a good nights sleep, so now I'm not so annoyed as I was last night. Let's start over!
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And you really shouldn't call Dachay "young man"...  Quote:
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You must have some knowledge because you obviously know how to chew out stranges on a BBS... In case you didn't get it, this was a joke. It's just hard to understand that a person who finds this BBS via the internet has "little computer knowledge". Then: What excactly is the problem? As in? You don't know how to start the program. You don't know how get the MIDI-signals into your computer and record them. You don't know how to export the files. What?
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12-04-2003
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Moskus..
It may very well be that when I wind up in an "old folks house" I may have the time to sit hunting and pecking at a keyboard for hours. At this point in my life I do not have that luxury or inclination. No...I don't know what word or excel or any of that stuff is..I have not seen a windows mixer..I have no idea what kind of soundcard I have..I'm not sure what a soundcard is. This may seem unbelievable to you..but it's sadly true. My specific problem is terminology, I think. On my sequencer, I would compose 8 bar or 16 bar "patterns" then I would put them together with each other in various ways to experiment with song structure. Generally the first patterns would be simple..bass, drums and piano...if the muse struck, I might add other instruments.. I had a boatload of outboard sound modules and could easily experiment with different textures as I was composing. The key words were "merge" which meant taking 5 06 tracks of piano parts and combining them to one track. "pattern" which was just what the name implies, a set piece of 8 bars or whatever. "Song"..this was the product of patterns following each other to create a finished song structure. Cakewalk performs all of these functions , I'm sure, but the words are different, and often terms are undefined in the tutorial. Instead of telling folks like me that there is no problem or just to "read the book" or whatever, it would be helpful to just believe us when we say we can't figure something out ! It's as simple as that.. And, at nearly 60 years of age I have earned the right to call someone "young man" if I choose to ! Unless Dachay is a female, of course. This kid on the East coast understood exactly what I was looking for...seems strange to me that it was so foreign to some of you here. "Chewing out" rude people doesn't take much knowledge.. Just a reply in kind..that's all. I certainly didn't come here to be rude... I came here looking... Several people, including you have offered to help me... thank you, and if there are any questions for a guy who started recording when 4 tracks was state of the art.. I'm here ! Bob Young
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