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Y-Splitter out of guitar?

Greetings,

Is this going to work? Use a mono 1/4" Y-splitter straight out of the guitar to feed one amp and one direct track?

Or will I end up halving impedance, resistance or some damn thing meaning each cable will be half it's normal "volume"?

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try it, you never know ... but i think you will be better off with an A/B/AB box (or what ever it's called).
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Cool! You see, I just knew there had to be an expensive, audio related solution to this problem...

A Y-splitter just would have been too easy.

Forgive my ignorance, but I have not come across an A/B/AB box => I get the concept, but how do I search for one on zZounds etc.. Any recommendations?

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Try search for splitter.
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You can split the signal quite a few times before you will start to degrade it. Its not all that hard to build your own Y cables or even split box.
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You can split the signal quite a few times before you will start to degrade it.
Actually if you are using passive splitters the degradation begins on the first split.

I would use an active splitter. Some stereo stomp boxes work well as splitters when they are in bypass mode.
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Thanks guys, I'm off to the shops...........

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hey -
look what I found

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...base_id/104118

Its Behringer (!)

any way to do it with a little mixer? I'd be curious myself
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Actually if you are using passive splitters the degradation begins on the first split.
It won't even be able to notice the diffrence. Almost all DI boxes on the market just passively split the signal.

One major factor is the input impeadance of what your spliting out to, you want it them to be pretty high(~100kohms) so they don't load down the pickups in the guitar.

Actually after reading the orginal post, what you need here is a DI box. Which will split the signal and give you a ballenced XLR output that you can run into a mic preamp.
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That's actually funny, AlanFC and Garak -- I just got back from the shops with the little Behringer DI linked above.

Yes, I know, Behringer is bad, but hey - the price was good and it seems to be doing the job correctly.

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OK, OK -- now what do I need to run the direct track back out of my sound card's mixer, (@ either +4dBu or -10dBV), and back into my guitar effects unit?

Some sort of line level conditioner to convert it back to a high-Z, unbalanced signal?

Am I getting warmer?

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Is the output of the soundcard ballanced? Then you can use an XLR to 1/4" transformer to match the impedance as for the level just turn it way down in the soundcards mixer and bring it up slowly untill you have enough level into the effects unit.

Another option would be to use a guitar effects software plugin.
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You can Y-split the signal, but will need a DI to match the impedance to your preamp for direct recording.

To come back into the guitar effect you would want a reamp box to bring the signal back to guitar/intrument level.
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so who makes reamp boxes and where can i get one?
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check out this link... www.littlelabs.com it pertains to the subject
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Guess I answered my own question. For anyone interested there is a review of little labs IBP analog phase alignment tool in the october issue of RECORDING.
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check out this link... www.littlelabs.com it pertains to the subject
...yup, that'll do.
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Morley makes an ABY stompbox pedal, as does Whirlwind. Both will allow you to use one guitar to two outputs or two guitars to one output device. BOSS has a killer little pedal that allows multiple effects, guitars, amp combos controlled by one pedal (about $80 US). It's called the LS-2 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/.../base_id/36289 .

You may have already made up your mind, but thought I'd add that, as well.

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